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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    What more could we do to NK short of military action?
    Cancel Lil Kim's subscription to Netflix?

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    Seriously, if we try and embargo North Korea? Kim will consider it an act of war.
    Stop N.Korea's flow of money? act of war.
    Surgical strikes against select targets? act of war
    Build up conventional forces on the Korean punninsula? act of war...

    You see where this is going.

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    Yeah the basic premise seems to be make him think we're going to invade since that's what we think made Khadafi settle down.

    Trouble is, Kim has always thought we're going to invade NK.

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    Yeah the basic premise seems to be make him think we're going to invade since that's what we think made Khadafi settle down.

    Trouble is, Kim has always thought we're going to invade NK.
    Khadafi settled down? The truth is Lybia never had much of a nuclear program to begin with, and Khadafi figured that he needed to work with foreign (read: American)oil companies or they would work against him, something Saddam never quite figured out.

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    Keep stalling until Kim is dead. Pray someone more reasonable steps up.
    Or how about some old fashioned assassination? It could even be domestic, there have to be some disgrunted north koreans out there.

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    Clinton and Carter gave the North Koreans over four billion dollars to fund their nuclear program. I'd say doing nothing would be preferable.

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    Khadafi settled down? The truth is Lybia never had much of a nuclear program to begin with, and Khadafi figured that he needed to work with foreign (read: American)oil companies or they would work against him, something Saddam never quite figured out.
    Those bombs in his living room didn't have anything to do with it.

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    Clinton and Carter gave the North Koreans over four billion dollars to fund their nuclear program. I'd say doing nothing would be preferable.
    Misleading at best.

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    Misleading at best.
    What part is wrong? We are still funding two light water reactors and sending them 100 million dollars in oil every year in spite of the fact that they violated the agreed framework before Jimmy Carter got his million dollar check from the Nobel foundation. North Korea then announced proudly "We have the bomb, what are you going to do about it?"

    Sorry, bro. It's completely correct. Idiotic snipes don't suddenly make it false.

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    Yep. I was mistaken. Allow me to rephrase:

    Clinton and Carter gave the North Koreans just under one billion dollars to fund their nuclear program. I'd say doing nothing would be preferable.

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    Looks like some Democrats aren't looking to filibuster Bolton

    A leading Democrat senator said that a filibuster of President Bush's controversial UN Ambassador John Bolton "is unlikely," RAW STORY has learned.

    Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Senator, appeared last night on CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. During the course of the interview, Schumer explained "I think that if you count the votes, a filibuster is unlikely, but a lot of Democrats are deciding, weighing the positive of Bolton that he's been for Israel and negative that he has almost an antagonistic, "go at it alone" at ude to the nations of the world, which we need with us to fight a war on terror."

    Schumer confirmed that he himself was "open-minded" and has yet to make a final decision on the vote.
    Rawstory

    "Schumer confirmed that he himself was "open-minded" and has yet to make a final decision on the vote."

    'Open-minded' - yeah right

    WHIP Durbin confirmed just a few days ago that they almost had the votes to filibuster Bolton.

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    Yep. I was mistaken. Allow me to rephrase:

    Clinton and Carter gave the North Koreans just under one billion dollars to fund their nuclear program. I'd say doing nothing would be preferable.
    That's still intimating that light-water reactors = nuclear bombs, which is still misleading. That was my only point.

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    That's still intimating that light-water reactors = nuclear bombs, which is still misleading. That was my only point.
    Actually, that would be misleading, but wasn't my intent. I was more referring to the fact that we sent them money, equipment and oil that allowed them to continue work on their original weapons program. The light water reactors were basically to call the bluff on North Korea's claim that they were pursuing nuclear reactors for electrical power rather than for nuclear weapons.

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    So what do you think we would give them if anything comes of the multilateral talks?

    Gum?

    Playstations?

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    So what do you think we would give them if anything comes of the multilateral talks?

    Gum?

    Playstations?
    Do you think it's worth giving them more than that if they are going to continue to develop nuclear weapons? I'd just as soon not give them anything and go back to the Clinton idea of waiting them out if nobody is going to actually hold them to an agreement, although at some point they are going to sell a weapon to someone who will drop it on Israel, which may be what the world community is counting on.

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