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    Gosh, Mavs man thinks the Mavs got better. I'm shocked.
    Gosh...I'm so shocked that Spur's fans actually believe this writer and agree with everthing he wrote.

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    Be very physical with the mavs, don't go small, stand up to their cheap shots in some kind of way along with having the talent and the Mavs fold fast and themselves not knowing how to handle the situation.

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    Gosh, Mavs man thinks the Mavs got better. I'm shocked.
    If thats all you got to say then just dont open your mouth at all. Either explain why im wrong or shut the up.

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    Be very physical with the mavs, don't go small, stand up to their cheap shots in some kind of way along with having the talent and the Mavs fold fast and themselves not knowing how to handle the situation.
    Yea miami's physical play definately caught them off guard and was effective but dont count on it next year. They are proffessionals and im sure they will address the problem. Plus the spurs dont have anyone to get physical with them so it really doesnt worry me.

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    All the sudden spurs fans have a new sense of hope and suddenly become experts on the mavs offseason, as if theyve been following all along.

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    The only spurs fan in this thread whos opinion i respect his JGrice because at least he backs up his opinion, even though i disagree and think the mavs have upgraded at least defensively.

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    The Mavs got better, yes, in small ways. The moves won't make much impact, except for Anthony Johnson playing PG. I think on paper, the Mavs are better than the Spurs, but in terms of actually playing, I'd give a very slight edge to the Spurs. Both teams are very close to being equal and we could be in store for one of a rivalry this year.

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    All the sudden spurs fans have a new sense of hope and suddenly become experts on the mavs offseason, as if theyve been following all along.
    When will you ing realize you're on a SPURS FORUM dip ? Most Spurs fans do not like the Mavs, why the would we disagree and say the Mavs are better than us? You really have no ing brains if you think you're going to get agreements from us dude.

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    The Mavs got better, yes, in small ways. The moves won't make much impact, except for Anthony Johnson playing PG. I think on paper, the Mavs are better than the Spurs, but in terms of actually playing, I'd give a very slight edge to the Spurs. Both teams are very close to being equal and we could be in store for one of a rivalry this year.
    Theres 2 spurs fans whose opinions i respect even though i slightly disagree. I think not only are they better on paper but they should be a little better on defense and have more toughness.

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    Yea miami's physical play definately caught them off guard and was effective but dont count on it next year. They are proffessionals and im sure they will address the problem. Plus the spurs dont have anyone to get physical with them so it really doesnt worry me.
    Miami>>>>Mavs till they prove they can beat em in a series. Elson and Butler will give Dirk some hard hits to the floor so prepared to be shocked if you expect us to give you layup drills next season. In fact dont be shocked if alot of teams get physical with you next season due to that being exposed. Duncan is also a physical player look at how he handled the ing Pistons with 2 bad ankles. The Mavs arent a physical team and when you play that way with them all game it wears them down and they dont handle it well because they arent built like that. Call me what you want but that is the truth.

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    When will you ing realize you're on a SPURS FORUM dip ? Most Spurs fans do not like the Mavs, why the would we disagree and say the Mavs are better than us? You really have no ing brains if you think you're going to get agreements from us dude.
    So basically you are saying that even if the mavs are better you dont have the balls to admit it because you dont like them.

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    Theres 2 spurs fans whose opinions i respect even though i slightly disagree. I think not only are they better on paper but they should be a little better on defense and have more toughness.
    Don't get caught up with the harsh words though. I seriously don't understand why you guys think the Spurs fans will agree with you here. We're on a Spurs forum, not a Mavs forum, so please understand that. It annoys the outta me when fans from other teams expect us to say they're better than us.

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    Miami>>>>Mavs till they prove they can beat em in a series. Elson and Butler will give Dirk some hard hits to the floor so prepared to be shocked if you expect us to give you layup drills next season. In fact dont be shocked if alot of teams get physical with you next season due to that being exposed. Duncan is also a physical player look at how he handled the ing Pistons with 2 bad ankles. The Mavs arent a physical team and when you play that way with them all game it wears them down and they dont handle it well because they arent built like that. Call me what you want but that is the truth.
    Duncan is not physical, the only slightly physical guy on the spurs roster is Elson, and i don't see popovich being stupid enough to have him guard dirk.

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    So basically you are saying that even if the mavs are better you dont have the balls to admit it because you dont like them.
    I'm saying that because we're SPURS FANS on a SPURS FORUM, we're not going to go around saying teams are better than us. In our minds, we're the best team, just as is the same with the Mavs and their fans.

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    Duncan is not physical, the only slightly physical guy on the spurs roster is Elson, and i don't see popovich being stupid enough to have him guard dirk.
    I think when he said physical, he meant that Tim is tough and can take a beating, as can Manu. But they aren't players that are going to throw someone on the ground.

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    Don't get caught up with the harsh words though. I seriously don't understand why you guys think the Spurs fans will agree with you here. We're on a Spurs forum, not a Mavs forum, so please understand that. It annoys the outta me when fans from other teams expect us to say they're better than us.
    I'm not saying the mavs are better than the spurs. All i am saying is that i think the mavs upgraded defensively. I know it will be another close series next year if they do meet. It will most likely be a toss up like last year.

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    As far as I see it, the Mavs have a better team then the Spurs.

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    EssaySpur, u shouldnt be so quick to jump to conclusions. For gods sake all i said is i believe the mavs upgraded defensively, i mentioned nothing about them being better than the spurs. Like i said next years series, assuming they meet, will most likely come down to a game 7.

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    I'm not saying the mavs are better than the spurs. All i am saying is that i think the mavs upgraded defensively. I know it will be another close series next year if they do meet. It will most likely be a toss up like last year.
    The topic le makes your arguements seem like you're saying the Mavs are better than the Spurs, because it's "Are Mavs as solid as Spurs? Don't count on it..." and it looks as if you're trying to defend that the Mavs moves make them better than the Spurs

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    Guys like Daniels...?? What series were u watching? Daniels had one decent performance in game 6 when Dallas was all but down and out. Other than that, he didn't do .
    He played well when they needed someone to step up in the Finals. Had they won the game he would have been the main reason. Daniels is the most talented/productive player to leave Dallas this offseason and no one they brought in matches his talent/production. Argue that Johnson is an upgrade and you will have my support. But argue that any other player is an upgrade and your argument will fall short. There simply isn't enough talent/production to differentiate the other players.

    Aside from Johnson there were no major upgrades, period. And whoever replaces Daniels will be an immediate donwgrade. Only Ager has the potential to fill Daniels shoes, but not immediately. So with one upgrade, one downgrade, and a bunch of comparable additions, Dallas did a nice job of filling out their roster so they have another deep, talented team. But what else is new?

    An upgraded roster? It may very well prove to be if Avery can make these parts work better than the old parts. But if you compare what they acquired with what they lost there is no real difference. Believe otherwise if you want, I suspect any blind Mavs fan will do just that.

    Most non-bias media articles seem to agree that the Mavs did a good job replacing what they lost with comparable talent - eerily comparable when you think about it. Of course, one source did say that Devean George was the best low-key signing of this offseason. Anyone who says that loses immediate credibility in my mind, but I simply have little respect for George's game and find that his addition works against the theory that they upgraded their roster.

    Aside from that source it has been nothing but the truth. Dallas upgraded at backup PG but will miss Daniels. Aside from those changes, they replaced what they lost with identical players. If that brings you great hope for the future then good for you. But I have news for you. Dallas didn't lose because they lacked depth. Even when their bench stepped up in the Finals they still lost. Why? Because their starters didn't step-up. If they win next season it will be because of their starters learned from last seasons collapse.

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    EssaySpur, u shouldnt be so quick to jump to conclusions. For gods sake all i said is i believe the mavs upgraded defensively, i mentioned nothing about them being better than the spurs.
    I guess I kinda got used to the Mav fans bad-mouthing us for the last 3 months and it all bothers me now

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    JGrice i think you are forgetting that Buckner is a better shooter and less liability on offense than Griffin. Also Griffin is slowed because of a bad back, Buckner is much quicker. We are talking about slight upgrades here not major. I agree the only big upgrade was Anthony Johnson>Darrel Armstrong.

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    JGrice i think you are forgetting that Buckner is a better shooter and less liability on offense than Griffin. Also Griffin is slowed because of a bad back, Buckner is much quicker. We are talking about slight upgrades here not major. I agree the only big upgrade was Anthony Johnson>Darrel Armstrong.
    I think that Terry playing SG with Harris at the PG will give Buckner less time at the position though. Terry will probably start at SG, Harris at PG, and Johnson will backup Harris with Bucker backing up Terry. You're looking at a second lineup of Croshere, Dampier, Johnson, Buckner, and Stackhouse.

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    I really dont see how losing Daniels can be a downgrade because he never played and wasnt relied on. He may be talented and have potential but its not like we are losing his services, we never used him to begin with.

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    I think that Terry playing SG with Harris at the PG will give Buckner less time at the position though. Terry will probably start at SG, Harris at PG, and Johnson will backup Harris with Bucker backing up Terry. You're looking at a second lineup of Croshere, Dampier, Johnson, Buckner, and Stackhouse.
    Doesnt sound too bad for a 2nd lineup to me. The main thing I am worried about is someone like Butler or Eric Williams being able to take turns on Dirk and allow Bowen to slow howard or someone else.

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