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Me too, but you saw those guys in red from SPA? those babies are f...g good, I'm so concern about them
Read the whole thread.
Me too, but you saw those guys in red from SPA? those babies are f...g good, I'm so concern about them
re: NZ Vs Argentina, Oberto put up huge numbers but Scola still looked the better player. Just my opinion.
I read the whole thread. Actually, Bruno's first post says (referring the impact the ARG vs FRA game made in his opinion of Scola):
Therefore, my question to him:
is valid. One freaking game is enough to negatively affect his opinion about a guy who has been playing for 10 years?
He played twice against the US (in 2002 and 2004), playing pretty well in both games, and somehow this game against France is the litmus test of how Scola will do in the NBA?
I don't agree.
actually scola only played so-so against the US in 04. but again, when scola gets 10 and 6 we call it so-so, javotkas would be lucky to average that, be it in 06, 04, 02...
re: Scola vs France, i think the bigger disclaimer with that game was that it was the first in the tourney. I'm sure bruno would agree that most french players had better games than that one (and the US team had better games than against PR) and for scola its the same, the first game there is still jet lag, new hotel, etc etc etc.
Still i dont think Scola has an athleticism problem, not from this tournament or others before. maybe he is undersized to go against the NBA giants (although there arent that many left), maybe there are contract issues, but i dont think athleticism, skill, or work ethic are keeping him out of the NBA.
I'm not a computer or a mavs fan, I have more than two opinions that are "he sucks" and "he rocks". So each game can change my opinion on a player. Of course, a game can't change my whole opinion and the effect of a single game on my opinion about a player depends on :
- The number of games played by this player. Scola has maybe played a lot of years at a very high level in europe but he hasn't faced a lot of players with nba athletism and level. I give my opinion about Scola and his future in nba not about Scola euro career.
- The number of games I've watched of him. I know that it has no link with a player's value but I give my opinion not a fact. BTW, I've watched only between 10 and 20 games with Scola.
- How meaningfull this game is : friendly game, level of the opponent...
Before this tournament my opinion on Scola in nba was :
Scola will be an average defender and rebounder. He won't be a defensive and rebounding liability because he plays with heart, he is smart and he is not that unathletic.
Scola offense will be quite good in nba. His post offense will suffer a little but he is not only a post player : he can hit the midrange jumper and plays very well the pick and roll.
After the game against France, my opinion has changed about his offense and it's not only based on stats but on what I've seen too.His post offense has suffered way more against athletic players than what I thought and if he can't be a minimum effective in the post, his offense isn't that good because his face to the basket game is limited. To sum up, I'm less optimistic about the translation of his offensive game to nba.
This game has changed my opinion negatively even if my opinion remains positive about him. As said Albert, everything is relative.
If I have a good opinion of Scola, it's because of all he has done in the past. The game against France was the most relevant game (nba wise) of the WC, not of all Scola's career.
Well, it's your right : Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
Scola has been disapointing against Spain.
He has been a non-factor in offense, he has been unable to beat a player like Gasol in the post. He has made some defensive mistakes too. The only positive aspect is that he has played with a lot of heart. I start to understand more why Spurs weren't ready to give him a big salary.
My opinion of Scola has changed. I liked him a lot in the Olympics, but he really didn't do much in this tournament. I really don't think he would fit in well in the NBA. What a difference 2 years makes. In 04 I'd say that Scola was the 2nd most important player for Argentina behind Manu, but now I think Manu, Nocioni, Sanchez, maybe even Delfino are all more important.
Today he didn't look very confident on offense. Now, I give him props for knocking down two clutch FT's to tie the game, but he would never try to take Gasol or do anything on offense.
same could be said for javtokas, the both of them havnt live up to the hype they are in europe in this tournament. why all of a sudden they are struggling as compared to athens.
Just happens. It isn't exactly a long tourment.
Javtokas was never really hyped up as anything.
Scola is supposed to be the best power forward in Europe.
I was impressed with how Scola played against the USA. He can definitely play in the NBA. I don’t think he would be an all-star but I do think he is starter material. The guy has heart, talent, and is not as unauthentic as people make him out to be.
The one weird thing I noticed about Scola is that he looks taller than his listed height. Either that or the NBA players got favorable measurements on their listed heights.
Scola has been very good against USA (especially in the first quarter), I wonder now why he has been not that good agianst France and Spain :
- Inconsistent ?
- Lack of motivation ?
- His teammates ?
- weak USA defense ? ...
Not sure why but the guy does play well against Team USA. The "he cant play in the NBA" is no longer a valid argument. He has proven otherwise.
I won't say that "he can play in nba" after only one great quarter against USA like I won't say that "he can't play in nba" after only two games against France and Spain.
It doesn't changed that his offense has been very good against athletic players with some good low post moves.
The guy deserves a shot at the NBA. I hope the Spurs and him can agree on the economics.
Scola seemed athletic enough.. a smart player with a high basketball IQ, good skills and a compe ive spirit can be very effective in the NBA even if he isn't some 7-ft freak that can jump out of the gym. I say we give Scola a chance.
We should trade his rights or bring him over, but now. waiting, we will lose his value as he gets older and just decides to finish his career in Spain. this bull about waiting for international players so long to come over, the Spurs should know their plans for each player they own the rights to, might as well execute them ASAP.
If he can help the team, bring him over, if he won't fit it, then trade his rights for someone/something that will improve the team. Waiting forever won't work.
Scola really impressed me with his play in the W.C.
I think Scola's best attribute is toughness. He isn't a starting 5 material NBAwise, he may not even crack the rotation in a deep team as SA, but he's the kind of player who will come up with a great play down the stretch. It may be purely economics after all, the fact that he's not a Spur yet, but when you pay Oberto 1.5M you have to understand that this guy won't settle for anything less than 3M.
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