Has Scola's performance to-date changed your opinion of him, positively or negatively, as a potential Spurs player?
Don't ask Oscar de la because he doesn't know what it is.
As for me, I'd like to see how Luis plays against Team USA this time. He's done very well in the past, so I think he is an NBA player. Even if Luis had no buy-out, I'm not sure how well he would fit into Pop's plans. I personally think he would play pretty well off the bench for the Spurs. He's a very active player and that never hurts a player's chances with any team.
negatively.
The game against France was the most revelant (so far) to see what Scola will do in nba and he has played poorly.
Scola's a world class talent whose game may not translate fully into the NBA, but the Spurs' line of him not fitting in next to Duncan, IMO, was a bunch of hot air. If he was cheaper, he'd be a Spur. Also, there's likely too much sourness between the sides for something to happen. He'll be doing well for some other NBA team before long.
Personally I don't think you can accurately judge Scola by FIBA play, even if it is against the US team. Plus, Nocioni, Oberto and Hermann are playing out of their minds, so Scola hasn't really been needed this tournament. I will say this, Scola is ten times more athletic than Oberto and we all know the NBA is all about athletism. Plus his court vision is excellent as well.
Still, I'm not sure if there is room for Scola in this Spurs team.
Last edited by MaNuMaNiA; 08-29-2006 at 02:06 PM.
The problem is that he has struggled in the game were he has faced players with nba athletiscm (Boris Diaw and Florent Pietrus).
Other games were either against scrubs (Libanon, Venezuela, nigeria, NZ) or against teams with a typical euro PF (Nikolic with Serbia and Peker/Golum... against Turkey) and it's not a surprise when Scola, who is the best euro PF, plays well against them.
I like Scola and think that he can help Spurs but I haven't seen something in this tournament that has shown that he will be able to play well in nba.
Dude can't even keep his teeth in his mouth.
what the ? why is playing 1 game vs. France similar to playing in the NBA???
we saw him dunk his way to the gold vs. Team USA in the olympics. there's no doubt he can play vs. athletic teams.
What the ????
Read before posting.
First, I've never said that it was similar. Please, re-read my post.
Second, this thread is about : "how Scola recent plays have changed your POV about him ?". I know what he has done in the past with Argentina or TAU. Please, re-read the first post.
So it's not similar then? then it's irrelevant how Scola performed vs. France. you are contradicting yourself then
no this thread is about "Scola's performance to-date " which includes performances in the past, Tau, olympics included. re-read the first post.Second, this thread is about : "how Scola recent plays have changed your POV about him ?". I know what he has done in the past with Argentina or TAU. Please, re-read the first post.
You think that I'm contradicting myself because you don't understand the difference between relevant and similar.
Even if it's not nba, Scola's performance against players with nba athletism (like Diaw or Pietrus) is way more relevant to what he will do in nba than a game against the typical non-athletic euro PF.
No, re-read the first post.
"changed your opinion of him" prove that it's not all the past because you can't have an opinion on a player without considering any performance.
I see, so you're basing your opinion on one game?
Bruno's point is very valid.
In the game where he played against an athletic frontcourt, he struggled. You guys can say "it's just one game" all you want, but that's the only game of that type that he has to compare it to so far in this tournament. If he plays the US and struggles again, then that will further validate Bruno's stance. If he doesn't struggle against the US, then you can say the France game was just a bad game.
its not that its not valid Kori, its that he's jumping to conclusions after one game, and that is BS. If he struggles against the US, (which lets face it, who the wouldn't??) it will just prove that he is not as good as some of the best players the US can muster, and thats it. Seriously, you cannot make up your mind about how a player will perform in the NBA by how he plays in FIBA tournaments.
Did, I say that ? No.
To sum-up, my Scola love meter was 8/10 before the tournament and it's now 7/10.
I don't base my opinion on one game but each game has an influence on it.
yup that game vs. France alone has NO IMPACT on my opinion on Scola.
Maybe his whole performance as a whole in the tournament could affect my overall opinion on Scola. But if someone changes their mind basing it on only 1 game, no matter who he played, is ridiculous.
But it will give you a serious idea if the player is struggling keeping up with NBA athletes, then he would most likely always struggle keeping up with NBA athletes.
Anyway, this tournament hasn't changed my mind about Scola. I've always thought that he wouldn't be in the NBA and I still think that. He's a great forward for Europe. I don't think he's athletic enough to be that good in the NBA. If he would take a $1-2M a year, I wouldn't mind seeing him try but honestly I'm kind of tired of the Scola subject. Just like I'm sure he's tired of the Spurs subject
I think that if the Spurs manage to find a good deal out there, they will trade his rights and hopefully he can play for an NBA team that could put him to good use. I think he can play in the NBABut it will give you a serious idea if the player is struggling keeping up with NBA athletes, then he would most likely always struggle keeping up with NBA athletes.
Anyway, this tournament hasn't changed my mind about Scola. I've always thought that he wouldn't be in the NBA and I still think that. He's a great forward for Europe. I don't think he's athletic enough to be that good in the NBA. If he would take a $1-2M a year, I wouldn't mind seeing him try but honestly I'm kind of tired of the Scola subject. Just like I'm sure he's tired of the Spurs subject
I think Scola would do a lot better in the NBA than Herrmann will, and Oberto.
Oberto is gonna be the best Argentinean player next to Manu and maybe Nocioni.
so far in this tourney, scola and javtokas has had poor performances...they didnt live up to the hype they are in euro
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I thought you were calling Oberto for most improved as a joke. A guy that plodding is not gonna make great leaps in the NBA, although it makes you wonder why Pop and co brought him over... he must have something more to offer.
As for Scola - maybe Horry's replacement after this season (Bonner's becomes the big 3pt specialist)?
Hey, why don't we bring Scola over, trade for Hermann and start the Argentine National team with Parker! Duncan can come off the bench...
i think Nocioni has shown already that is one of the best Argentinian players,
he played awesome against Turky ( just to mention one game)
He's a good player, but I won't argue if the team thinks he's not worth his buyout.
So he had a so-so game (10 and 6) against France and that's enough to impact your whole opinion of Scola?
If I recall correctly, he had a pretty good semi-finals game in Athens against an entire front court of NBA stars.
One game (or two in this case) is not enough to judge Scola.
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