Reply With Quote
The article doesn't say every person, it says every evangelical.Sure, every person opposed to abortion or gay marriage regards those with differing opinions as Satan! That's not a hyperbolic misrepresentation at all!
Her claim was prejudiced... The Bible opposes abortion and sexuality. We as Christians, however, are taught to embrace the sinner. Shoot... we're all sinners and all need GOD; we are not placed above anybody else. The point was that she was denouncing dogma... and then she ended up spewing dogma of her own.
The article doesn't say every person, it says every evangelical.Sure, every person opposed to abortion or gay marriage regards those with differing opinions as Satan! That's not a hyperbolic misrepresentation at all!
Oh, OK, that makes it much more reasonable!
Sure, and statues of Mary are just statues.All Christian youth groups are the same as one in North Dakota that may be worshipping around a cutout of George W. Bush!
Some Evangelicals would disagree with you.Her claim was prejudiced... The Bible opposes abortion and sexuality. We as Christians, however, are taught to embrace the sinner. Shoot... we're all sinners and all need GOD; we are not placed above anybody else.
Reasonable or not, it makes it much more likely. I'm sure if we did a study, there would be a strong statistical correlation.
???
Sometimes you have a really hard time making yourself understood.
I'm left to guess your point...
A) "A lot of Catholics revere/beatify/worship the Virgin Mary, so there is precedent for Christians to worship humans, and so worshipping George W. Bush may actually be common."
No, it is not common whatsoever. I've heard of extremists saying that George W. Bush is the President God wants in the White House. I have never heard or seen anyone claiming that Bush is supposed to be worshipped. The reverence of Mary, with which essentially all Protestants disagree, is tied to her being the "mother of God" and is grounded in well over a millenium of Catholic tradition.
Good luck finding so much as one reference to a Christian exposition claiming GWB to be an object of worship.
B) "Don't act as if those kids in North Dakota aren't in fact worshipping George W. Bush! Catholics worship the Virgin Mary, don't they!"
They may well be doing so, but it is heresy, and an extremely rare one at that. It certainly cannot be conflated to evangelical Christians in general.
There would be a strong correlation to opposition to abortion and gay marriage.
Your claim that all evangelicals, or a vast majority of them, believe that people who are pro-choice, or who support gay rights, are actively working for Satan, is baseless.
Christ embraced the 'sinners' of His time... why wouldn't we?
Well, not working for Satan, just not following the teachings of Jesus Christ. You know, heretics.Your claim that all evangelicals, or a vast majority of them, believe that people who are pro-choice, or who support gay rights, are actively working for Satan, is baseless.
A heretic is somebody who teaches falsely about Christianity, not somebody that chooses not to follow it.
But hey, keep up with the baseless negative stereotypes about Christians. I've heard that called bigotry before, but we all know enlightened liberals can't be bigots because they are so enlightened.
And they all immediately repented. I think we'd do more embracing if this were a possiblity.
Not saying that it isn't but, centuries of having Christian missionaries killed for their beliefs has kind of put a damper on the whole love your enemies meme.
Danny boy, Catholics do not worship the Virgin Mary.
Because my three sentence post was void of teaching and discipleship in that it didn't include that Christ's teaching is "grounded in truth", I'm associated with a chronic problem you've diagnosed among charasmatics?
Terribly presumptuous if that's the case.
Not working for Satan, but certainly not choosing to follow the Catholic version of the interpretation of the life of Jesus Christ.
Well, if you want to play the bigot card then this conversation isn't going to go very far. Ultimately, it's not what liberals think about evangelicals anyway, but how evangelical-based policy is as inflexible when it's used as a bases in policy by the U.S. government as it is in the Taliban-based government is in Afghanistan, and Shiia-based Government in Iraq.But hey, keep up with the baseless negative stereotypes about Christians. I've heard that called bigotry before, but we all know enlightened liberals can't be bigots because they are so enlightened
If that's being a bigot then label me guilty.
Had nothing to do with you, really. I was just pointing out that religious passion by itself doesn't accomplish much unless it is grounded in truth, and that passionate worship unadhered to Scripture is a problem in the charismatic movement.
I've had more than one heated discussion with a Word-O'-Faither wherein that person claimed because some people aren't rolling on the floors and crying and raising their arms during worship, they really just aren't passionate about God, and I proceeded to point out key deviations from Scripture in that person's belief system.
I in no way think that is a problem you are having.
Does flexibility to you mean "willing to capitulate to the other side," or does it mean "willing to work with the other side?"
If people disagree on a policy, they disagree on a policy.
If you think evangelicals are so inflexible that they wouldn't work with liberals to provide services to women so that they can find alternatives to abortion, I think you'd be wrong. If you think that evangelicals are so inflexible that they wouldn't even be open to the idea of cohabitating sexual couples receiving certain civil benefits, again, I think you'd be wrong (even the President you hate is on board with that!).
Heh, ask what the Roman Catholic church thinks of protestants...
All christians are heretics depending on who you ask.
I think the language is something about "impaired fellowship" with God rather than calling us outright heretics.Heh, ask what the Roman Catholic church thinks of protestants...
All christians are heretics depending on who you ask.
There are some fundies who call Catholics heretics.
But, by and large, the e enical movement is doing pretty well in the U.S. After all, we have to stick together against all those godless heathen secular liberals working hard for Satan.
Amen, brother.
Full-length Jesus Camp posted on Google Video.
Jesus Camp
islamictorrents.net?
I didn't realize there was a thread about this but Jess and I saw it awhile back. It was pretty weird how the lady flat out admitted to indoctrination of the children. The camp was flat out insane. It wasn't really eye opening or anything, but it was pretty crazy.
The best scene in the movie - which made it more than worth the price of admission - was the one where Haggard looks right into the camera and says "I know what you did last night!". The entire theater cracked up. Its decent as far as do entaries go.
Extremists....
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
