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Ah ok, I get it now.. as long as it's legal it's ok. Gotcha.
Here's my opinion in a nuts ... Outlawing abortion would be like outlawing guns.
Ultimately, abortion is an act of self defense. The morality of that can certainly be argued (and I would argue it too, as I find most abortions to be very immoral), but the legality cannot.
Ah ok, I get it now.. as long as it's legal it's ok. Gotcha.
Self defense? Please explain that one to me.
Something is growing in your body that you will have to deal with for 9 months.
I never said it wasn't shallow.
What are you doing about it? Could you be doing more? Declare yourself pro-life. That would be a huge first step.
BTW, Mikey, no disrespect intended here as well.
I truly try to understand the opposition, I am a scientist at heart, I have to have see reasons, you know?
Hmm.. ok, self defense is allowed when you're in danger, correct?
You might be in danger.
If someone breaks into your house, do you ask why they are there before you shoot them? Most likely, they're just there to rob you, but they could be there to rape you.
That is not what I'm saying at all.
I give up Jane.
If I misinterpreted this, then please forgive me. What are you trying to say?but the fact is that it is NOT illegal in the US therefore it cannot be prosecuted as murder.
Like I said, it's shallow and ugly. But so is injecting unscientific morality into law.
I believe life begins at conception. But I believe that for philosophical/religious reasons only, and that's not enough to create a law.
I give up Jane.
We're not going to change any minds here, NeoCon, all you can do is voice your opinion and plant the seed.
I am pro-life and I pray for the women who have made the decision to have an abortion that they may find peace within themselves.
We can go round and round on this issuek, and believe me I have, and there are those who will not understand my view as I may not understand yours.
Read the article I posted. I believe it was a well done article based on science, not religion or philosophy.
Yes, but planting the seed is what causes pregnancy.
Not that seed, Joe!!
You can change minds... Mine was changed.
At worst, you may simply convince some to think strongly before having an abortion.
I see absolutely no incostincency in personally not choosing the abortion option while not wanting to impose my personal beliefs on others.What are you doing about it? Could you be doing more? Declare yourself pro-life. That would be a huge first step.
It truly IS a personal issue.
The American public will NEVER reach a unanimous consensus on this issue.
Why keep making it a national political issue?
actually I should have specified. I did not mean anyone here specifically. My apologies. The points here have been well presented. Maybe if people on both sides could discuss like we do...there would be less violence. I have seen pro-choice people walk up to someone who was standing with a pro-life sign and berate them. Also I was in the Diamond Shamrock on Evers near 410 one saturday morning. I was ahem..hungover..so I was not feeling good to start with.There is an abortion clinic right next to it and there were people with pro-life signs outside it. I am cool with that...that is the right to peacable assembly which is part of our cons ution. I was walking out of the store and was approached by one of the protesters to sign a pe ion and take some literature. I politely declined and tried to walk away. She jumped in front of me and told me, "You need to see what is happening" I said, "you need to get out of my way" and started walking away. She then started shouting that I was a "party to murder" and I was going to . Which was about the time I told her to go to and walked off.
I have a question. Those here who are pro-life....do you feel that the killing of abortion doctors is justified?
or to be smarter before having sex.At worst, you may simply convince some to think strongly before having an abortion
Okay--let me throw a different twist to this discussion, because right now it's all about Pro-choice or Pro-life.
Say you find out that a relative or a very close friend has had one. It could have been your mother when she was a teen (and yes, that does happen) or whomever. They had one because to them that was their only choice. Would your feelings change about that person?
You are right, nothing gets accomplished when you throw over active emotions into the mix instead of trying to reasonably present your case.actually I should have specified. I did not mean anyone here specifically. My apologies. The points here have been well presented. Maybe if people on both sides could discuss like we do...there would be less violence. I have seen pro-choice people walk up to someone who was standing with a pro-life sign and berate them. Also I was in the Diamond Shamrock on Evers near 410 one saturday morning. I was ahem..hungover..so I was not feeling good to start with.
I have a question. Those here who are pro-life....do you feel that the killing of abortion doctors is justified?
No, I don't think killing of anyone is justified.
I do have close relatives that have had abortions and I can state that my feelings towards them have not changed in the least. The only changes that have really been wrought in our relationship is the at ude of that person towards others, not necessarily having to do with the abortion itself or anybody elses opinions of that, but just a more cynical view in general. I still love everyone and welcome them with open arms. Part of being a Christian is recognizing that nobody is perfect, that we all make mistakes and that there is forgiveness for all. Of course, you are sad that they made the choice, sad for the life that was lost and there may be a period of grief as with any death, but I have never let that be a reason to judge someone.
Nope....I would love that person just the same. I am not the one to judge others. That belongs to a higher authority. (no, not Gregg Popovich!)
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