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It certainly doesn't have to be through taxes, but practicing charity is not optional for a professing Christian. The idea that God helps those that help themselves comes from Ben Franklin, not the Bible.
A desire for more government (and thus taxes) is a reality of government.
A government, rather than just "hated", ought to be viewed, for this reason, with the utmost su ion, lest they have the means and wherewithal to begin unnecessary and overpriced programs, and begin unnecessary and overpriced wars.
Re: Christians being vehemently anti-tax; I am Christian, AND I am vehemently anti-tax.
I DO give to Caesar what he demands (more than he's due, however); but I do what I can to lessen that demand. I also give to the Lord what he's due (and get alot more bang for my buck - in terms of good done in the world)
It certainly doesn't have to be through taxes, but practicing charity is not optional for a professing Christian. The idea that God helps those that help themselves comes from Ben Franklin, not the Bible.
Vote early vote often.We got so much more moral with the Republicans in power, didn't we?
Gotta love people telling me Im evil for wanting to keep more of my own hard worked for money.
That is the basic fiscal conservative position right there.
The way a Christian society should work is that communities take care of their own people in need. Now, if the community is indifferent to its needy, then if nobody else will care for them, I'd rather the state do it than have them suffer.
By this I mean the truly needy. I don't mean the shiftless, the lazy, or the criminal. Of course, when government takes on the role, those folks find it a lot easier to game the system. Government care for the indigent is much less efficient, much more expensive, and much more corrupt than authentic charity.
But RG is right in that given a choice between feeding the poor and buying a 52" HDTV, for most Americans, are you ready for some football?
That is the basic fiscal conservative position right there.
The way a Christian society should work is that communities take care of their own people in need. Now, if the community is indifferent to its needy, then if nobody else will care for them, I'd rather the state do it than have them suffer.
By this I mean the truly needy. I don't mean the shiftless, the lazy, or the criminal. Of course, when government takes on the role, those folks find it a lot easier to game the system. Government care for the indigent is much less efficient, much more expensive, and much more corrupt than authentic charity.
But RG is right in that given a choice between feeding the poor and buying a 52" HDTV, for most Americans, are you ready for some football?
Spot on.
...and not just the "rich" ones, for those of you fond of throwing stones.
(btw: in MY living room is the only TV in the house - a 20" picture tube number w/only an antennae driving it).
Taxation shouldn't be argued on moral grounds. It's not the government's duty to coerce morality. I favor taxation and welfare, but as a necessary component of any government that imposes legislation that limits the means by which its citizens can acquire food or shelter.
I have serious issues with the ways that many en lements are handed out, but I believe the concept of welfare is a good thing... and not because feeding the poor and the homeless is the Christian thing to do.
Agree 1000% percent Spurm.
Well said.
Almost any true conservative would agree with you: to an extent. The problem is, the government takes ALL of the onus on itself for this, ostensibly, and thus demands enormous sums of money to "solve" a problem that could be alleviated with far less. The end result is a system that fosters and even encourages that which it is attempting to aid; requiring yet more funding, etc. etc...
Tax the rich, feed the poor.
Not exactly. We all want that, and a desire for responsible, efficient government is far from evil.
What IS evil is when people abdicate all social responsibility.
A society is a web of interconnections. You can't separate yourself from everybody else.
If you think about it, "money" is only possible in the first place because we have an organized government to provide the rules and framework for a functioning economy.
I want to keep more of my money too but I also realize taxes are a necessity and live by my take home pay. EVERYONE benefits from taxes.
Hmmm, does "morality" include murder, robbery, rape, etc? If so, then we should stop "coercing" the 3 million jail inmates.
Those crimes fall under a different umbrella. Murder isn't against the law because it's morally wrong, it's against the law because you're taking a life against someone's will.
Obviously this doesn't work with all of our laws, but in a perfect world....
Did you pay over $6,000 for each member of your family in income taxes last year? If not: YOU'RE ON THE TAKE! Not helping no-one; just dragging us down. (not ragging on you, just pointing out how incredibly much money the government spends)
Yeah we need 4 check and balance to come in and cut out alot of BS pork crap and just spend it on whats needed.
Rock and roll hall of fames and other BS like that do NOT need funding.
Good God, can you paint with any broader strokes? "truly moral" people are low-key Dems? Repubs are immoral manipulators of those with religious persuasions? Let's have a reality check. Neither party or their membership have a lock on being truly moral or immoral manipulators. You are sadly mistaken if you think either party leadership is concerned with morality, but I believe that many of the rank and file of the membership of both groups are good, moral people. Who happen to be stuck with some sorry-ass options for their leadership.
yeah the whole we are more moral than the other debate reallllly needs to be brought to a screeching halt.
Then they'd be left to debate the issues: god knows they don't want THAT to happen.
Heaven for friggen bid
Actually getting all viewpoints and other things out there
Define "they" without using unsupported generalizations
I doubt that I would easily fit into your preconcieved bias. God knows you don't want THAT to happen.
I would think he means the ones who are apart of the my side is more moral than your side.
Is it me, or did you guys miss the point about people claiming to be Christian, but actually going against true Christian values?
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