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You can't get away with that. Link please.
I have seen no few comments from people who think of themselves as good Christians along the lines of "screw you and everybody else, I've got mine and don't owe you anything".
This is simply put, evil.
It is entirely incompatible with the Christian faith/ethics to say or believe such things.
This kind of thinking puts money ahead of human beings and leads down the road of the worst evils that humanity has ever come up with. Materialism is a total anethema to morals. It is time we realized the truth in this and started acting accordingly.
You can't get away with that. Link please.
Well screw you. I do have mine. And God helps those that help themselves.
Everyone is not a victim.
Another little addage: Charity begins at home. There are those that need help,
but more that beg for help and don't need it. The operative word: Help. Not
paying someones bills for everything under the sun.
Now you got something else to call me. Cold hearted. (and other names, I'm sure)
Just remember something friend. You want to help people. Do so and more power
to you. But don't demand that others do through OUR government taxes. That
is not what taxes were designed for or the original intent of taxes.
How about self-righteousness, where does that fall? There was nothing that God hated more than the self-righteous from what I can tell.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1248047&postcount=3
I was about to post "nevermind", but you beat me to it.
Read post number three in this thread, and variations on theme.
Ray is not the only one that echoes similar things when it comes to such things.You worry about it. I am going and doing
some more consuming. Get me a tank of
gas, cut me some trees and eat some of those
animals before they vanish. Anyone got one of
them big old American cars, that ride easy,
steer easy, use lots of gas, that has low mileage
and they want to sell cheap?
I am unable to provide a link to all the comments like this that I have seen, but I think we can all see the materialism inherent in the "all taxes are bad because it is MY money not anybody elses".
This place would be pretty boring without the amoral bums that lurk here.
......Let those without sin..........you know the rest.
That is why I don't wear my religion on my sleeve and I don't believe politicians should either. Saying you are Christian yet supporting war just doesn't make sense to me.
How about my rationale:
ALL taxes are bad because, ultimately, they go to a inept, often corrupt, self-interested bloat hog of a United States Government - which is the most inefficient consumer and purchaser of goods and services than any other en y in the history of creation; that sending money to thay obnoxious abyss produces less good, literally, than the heat I could generate by dumping benjamins in an oil-can to heat up an alley full of homeless people - that every single tax dollar collected is spent by Congress, a less popular organization than the ABSC (Association of Baby Seal Clubbers)...Can I hate taxation because it is the means by which over 30% of my family's income is taken and completely wasted; not given to the poor, or the underpriviledged; not used to better my children's schools: IT IS WASTED by congressmen, who then have the audacity to come on MY TV, bloated chests full of hot, smelly air, and boast about how THEY delivered THIS THAT AND THE ING OTHER to OUR DISTRICT!!! BULL ING !!!!!! Sum shoved his fat assed jowels into the trough and slurped up some of my own damned money and regurgitated for some piece of crap project for some worthless campaign contributor, a small percentage of which ACTUALLY went to provide a couple of jobs for some poor uneducated (thanks governement again) fools to do something which didn't need doing in the first place!!!!
Is it OK with you if I hate taxes because of THAT??!!!
Taxes are a necessity of government.
All Christians are evil.
It was not my intent to sound self-righteous. I am far from perfect in this regard, as I seek a certain level of material living as well. I am not a monk forgoing all material things. By this admission, I am by definition, NOT self-righteous. I have never pretended to be a pious saint-like figure. I do what I can to be a good person, no more, no less.
I simply wanted to point out the immorality of the excesses of materialism I see. Is that really self-righteous, or are you upset that I have called you on your immoral behavior?
If so, then wouldn't claims of being a good christian, and then turning ones back on the morals of christianity be even more "self-righteous"?
Last edited by RandomGuy; 10-25-2006 at 11:44 AM.
That is a MUCH better reason to hate taxes than simply "it's my money"
I don't think government is quite as bad as all that, but not by much. I do agree that our current legislative process is "broken" by all the cash in the process with lobbyists of all sorts and the costs of elections. I also hate all the crappy porkmoney that is being thrown away as much as you seem to.
I feel the same outrage for companies that spend hundreds of millions of dollars on executive compensation packages that rob shareholders of returns, and arguably don't give any better returns than otherwise. Selfishness of any sort is less than moral.
That is part of the problem with the Democratic party. It has let the GOP define itself as the "moral" party because Dems tend to attract truly moral people who are low-key about it.
It has let cynical manipulators like the Bush administration ignore basic moral imperatives and completely take for granted that "true" christians will vote for them simply because they are Republicans, while giving lip service to actual ethical issues and snickering about them behind their backs.
Nah, but some sure are self-righteous pricks.
"Render to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and render to GOD what is GOD's" -- JESUS
Without taxes, we wouldn't be able to fund Bush's poorly conceived and poorly planned war.
RG, I don't think he believes that either. I think the accusation is just a scapegoat to avoid the truth of what you said. You made a great thread and it's something I've been saying on here for quite a while.
They hate when they are called on their hypocricy, claiming to be Christians, but going against Christian values. So the easy way for them to get out of the conversation is to bring up that the Bible says "do not judge others" or they try and say you are "self-righteous". It's not that they truly believe those sayings, it's that they don't have anything else to backup their selfishness.
I think the country is starting to see these lies.
Carry on.
You pegged it exactly. I would add that it is so sadly typical of people like Ray, Yoni, et al. that they can't see the forest for the trees. They spend all their time attacking the messenger as if that somehow makes the message wrong.
Thanks, I will do so, and can only hope for a true moral reawakening in our country.I think the country is starting to see these lies.
Carry on.
Which is far less likely to happen if the Democrats regain power.Thanks, I will do so, and can only hope for a true moral reawakening in our country.
We got so much more moral with the Republicans in power, didn't we?
^says The Amoral.
you beat me to it chump
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