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He averaged 11.7 boards last year against the Mavs in the playoffs. No exactly a struggle.
The team struggled, and maybe Tim did a little with his plantar fascitis, but somehow he still grabbed 11 boards a game! Clearly, you are incorrect.
He averaged 11.7 boards last year against the Mavs in the playoffs. No exactly a struggle.
The combo of Nazr/Rasho which we played 90% of the time was elite in rebounding sense. That means that at any given time we had 2 great rebounders on the floor to make up for the 3 poor ones. Often, we had Horry in there too at the same time, giving us a good reb/min team. We no longer have that and it shows in the boxscores every night. We simply can't put a good rebounding team on the floor and we must if we want to win. What ideas do you have?
I think he had 12 tonight.
Rasho averaged 1.7 rebounds in the 2005 playoffs. Nazr averaged 6.7.The combo of Nazr/Rasho which we played 90% of the time was elite in rebounding sense
The combination was not elite in the rebounding sense.
My idea is that the combination of Oberto/Elson and Butler will probably average double that by season's end.
Leaving lazy piles of crap like Wilcox off the team is a start.What ideas do you have?
Rasho was a good rebounder? Not from where I'm sitting. Nazr was a good offensive rebounder, but not so hot defensively. What to do?
Make do and win games in other ways just as we did last year, I guess, and wait until we can put James White on the floor!
I think Butler can be a good rebounder, and Elson on his night. I'm still not sold on Oberto though - the guy has no lift.
Rasho's 4 rebounds a game last year were steller, what you talkin bout willis!!
Reb/min is a better stat. TD always averages more rebounds in the playoffs because he gets more minutes.
He averaged 10.5 reb/38 minutes, which was subpar compared to previous years and we got killed in both series on the board. TD's my favorite player, but I just think he's lost a step.
Says who, YOU?Reb/min is a better stat.
Give me a break.
Rasho was barely used in the PO. We're talking about the reg season too. Bottom line, is our team went from being one of the best rebounding teams to one of the worst. If you don't think our loss at the 4 had something to do with that, then I dont' know what to say.
Elson is not a good rebounder compared to Nazr and Rasho. I don't think Oberto is a good enough defensive player to play. Butler might work, I dont' know.
He didn't rebound as well last year because he had PLANTAR FASCIITIS! SHeesh.
You just watch him average over 12 again this year, on about 36mins a game.
Go back to your other argument. You said Nazr/Rasho were elite in 2005 playoffs, when Rasho averaged less than 2 boards a game and Nazr averaged 6.7. So you are meaning to tell me that you don't think the Spurs three centers will top 8.5 rebounds per game this season?? Of course they will.
It's an issue. That's why the Spurs went out and upgraded at the center spot. So let the centers get acclimated to the system and see what they do. I imagine by season's end that the combo of Oberto/Butler/Elson will average about 15 boards a game. That's almost double your elite Nazr/Rasho combo from 2005 postseason.
Says Larry Brown, says Pop. It tells us a lot more about a players ability to rebound than rebound/game.
Yes we have a problem with rebounding.
No, Wilcox at 8mil a season is not the answer.
Elson is a much better rebounder than Rasho. Rasho sucked as a rebounder. Nazr was a solid rebounder. Elson isn't incredible but he's already better than Rasho.
No, I don't think they will because only one of them will play at a time. Oberto and Elson are both worse than either Rasho/Nazr, and again, I think with Oberto's poor D he isn't even worth playing. Butler could pan out, but if he doesn't we need to increase rebounding at the other positions and Bowen is the one to go. He should still get 25min/game behind Manu/Park and sometimes playing with both of them when the matchups are favorable.
Well that won't happen. Bowen is going to start.Bowen is the one to go. He should still get 25min/game behind Manu/Park and sometimes playing with both of them when the matchups are favorable.
The rebounding is going to come from the center spot, not by picking up a guy that's a power forward and plugging him in Bruce's place at SF.
Good god.
Bowen is not getting benched.
MOVE ON.
Dude, put down the pipe. Wilcox is incredibly lazy and can't even be bothered to defend in the post. He will NEVER chase a small man through screens and all around the court. If you plug Wilcox into Bowen's spot, the Spurs might win 45 games. Every team with even a decent wing scorer would positively ass-rape SA.
Well, the stats don't support that. Rasho was a 1rb/4.2min, whereas Elson is abbout a 1/4.6 min.
No way.
6+5+4 (not in any order) It's not too difficult.
Okay, forget Wilcox. I didn't know he was lazy and had a bad at ude.
How about Reggie Evans? Possibly the best rebounder in the L and Nuggets barely play him, having Kmart, Nene, Camby there. Even Najera's getting more minutes than him. Has no offense and I'm not too sure about his defense.
We should definitely first give Butler lot's of minutes to see if he's going to fit and if not make a move before the deadline.
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