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    when did Kerry say he was in support of across the board tax cuts.

    HOW AM I HYPOCRTICAL?!?!!?

    WHEN HAS G DUB RAISED TAXES ON ME?!

    PLEASE TELL ME!!


    Your reasoning makes zero sense.
    Obviously you can't read. I never said anything about Kerry and what he was or wasn't going to do. When I say "There are alternatives to republicans and democrats you know," that doesn't mean that I want you to vote for Kerry.

    The facts are this: Libertarians want you to keep more of your money than Republicans do. Libertarians want to protect your freedoms. They are more committed to it than republicans are. So don't talk to me about communism. The Patriot Act shows that the Republican Party is going in that direction. If you're really concerned about communism, you certainly wouldn't vote republican.

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    This Leviathan we face didn't arise overnight. I'd say by and large we have the Democrat party to thank, as well as an honorable mention for the GOP.
    That's the truth. The solution isn't to trust those two groups to undo what they've done. The solution is to leave it to a group seriously committed to taking on the very things that plague the nation.

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    I dont vote libertarian, one, cause they were strongly opposed to the IRaq war, I was for it.

    Also, I feel my vote needs to go to the candidate CLOSER to my views,

    Im sorry, but I cant waste my vote on a third party this election, I had to vote to keep the conservative alternate in office.

    Even though probobly loose.

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    I dont vote libertarian, one, cause they were strongly opposed to the IRaq war, I was for it.

    Also, I feel my vote needs to go to the candidate CLOSER to my views,

    Im sorry, but I cant waste my vote on a third party this election, I had to vote to keep the conservative alternate in office.

    Even though probobly loose.
    So you don't have the guts to stand up for what you believe? Instead of voting for the party that matches your views on money and freedom, you go with the republicans because it's the popular thing to do?

    Just confirm it so I can get you on the record saying it: "I, TPark, don't have the guts to stand up for what I believe. I am a sheep."

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    Still a net loss in job creation for the first time in over 70 years!
    Well, it's the first time 1 million jobs evaporated in a single day too...

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    tpark doesn't know what he believes

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    I have the guts to stand up for what I want, stop twisting my damn words.

    Im saying, I feel Bush closely resembles what I stand for, so I vote for him, and am trying to help him in the national overall vote.

    Id much rather Bush, who is more conservative than John Kerry in the white house.


    I understand where your coming from, but I still vote republican because thats what I have been, and thats where my loyalties still lie.

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    Iceman doesnt know what to say half the time so he makes up.

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    there are more people running than bush and kerry tpark

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    REALLY,

    no .

    On my ballot I voted on this morning it was Bush and Kerry and thats it, what should I do, write in the guy's name??

    Ok sure.

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    there are more people running than bush and kerry tpark
    No there's not...they're just names on the ballot. No one is "running" aside from President Bush and Senator Kerry.

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    I have the guts to stand up for what I want, stop twisting my damn words.

    Im saying, I feel Bush closely resembles what I stand for, so I vote for him, and am trying to help him in the national overall vote.

    Id much rather Bush, who is more conservative than John Kerry in the white house.


    I understand where your coming from, but I still vote republican because thats what I have been, and thats where my loyalties still lie.
    Fair enough. I still think that you're scared to go against the norm. If you really want to keep more of your money, you won't vote republican.

    But I'll respect that you've come to a conclusion that you've thought hard about and I'll get off your back. Fair enough.

    And Bush will win tonight, so you will get a victory.

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    yes, dumbass. your state is already ing decided, your vote does not matter. vote for what you believe not what everyone else tells you to vote. or do you not believe in anything

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    Fair enough. I still think that you're scared to go against the norm. If you really want to keep more of your money, you won't vote republican.
    You actually believe that?

    So, how would one vote, in this election, in order to keep more of their own money?

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    No there's not...they're just names on the ballot. No one is "running" aside from President Bush and Senator Kerry.
    What cons utes "running?" Badnarik is on the ballot in 48 states and he's traveled around the country campaigning with what money has been available. His base is strong enough that some feel that he'll make enough of a difference to get Kerry the victory.

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    No there's not...they're just names on the ballot. No one is "running" aside from President Bush and Senator Kerry.
    its at udes like that that leave us in this ing mess. douchbag vs rag .

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    You actually believe that?

    So, how would one vote, in this election, in order to keep more of their own money?
    Every vote counts the same. And since every vote for a third party candidate gets us closer to destroying the two-party system and allowing fiscally conservative candidates to actually have a chance, I'd say that one vote in this election is quite important.

    Do you really believe in what Bush stands for, or are you simply too scared to go against the norm? If you really believe, all the more power to you.

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    What cons utes "running?"
    Having a chance to win cons utes "running."
    Badnarik is on the ballot in 48 states and he's traveled around the country campaigning with what money has been available. His base is strong enough that some feel that he'll make enough of a difference to get Kerry the victory.
    Then change his name to Kerry on the ballot. Because, if what you say is true and enought idiots vote for Bednarak -- on the premise that Libertarians are more fiscally responsible (a position with which I happen to agree) -- only to spoil the election for George W. Bush, then you're going to end up with a President that is twice as fiscally irresponsible as is the current President.

    Nice job!

    Thankfully, it's not going to happen that way...but, that you think it's a responsible way to cast your vote is a sad commentary on the average Libertarians "blindness" on this election.

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    Every vote counts the same.
    Myth #1. A Demoncratic vote in Texas doesn't count for squat this year. Just as a Republican vote in Taxachussetts doesn't count for squat.
    And since every vote for a third party candidate gets us closer to destroying the two-party system and allowing fiscally conservative candidates to actually have a chance, I'd say that one vote in this election is quite important.
    It does not such thing. Perot turned public opinion against the third party in 1992. Nader did it in 2000. Bednarak will have no such impact on the 2004 vote so, it's likely the Libertarians won't suffer the wrath of the Green Party and the party started by Perot and propped up (briefly) by Jesse Ventura.

    Libertarians would do better by trying to influence Democratic or Republican party platforms -- not supplanting their base.
    Do you really believe in what Bush stands for, or are you simply too scared to go against the norm? If you really believe, all the more power to you.
    I know there are only two viable candidates in this election and I'm going to vote for the one with whom I share the majority of my views on national issues. Who agrees with any one person 100% of the time?

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    Having a chance to win cons utes "running."

    Then change his name to Kerry on the ballot. Because, if what you say is true and enought idiots vote for Bednarak -- on the premise that Libertarians are more fiscally responsible (a position with which I happen to agree) -- only to spoil the election for George W. Bush, then you're going to end up with a President that is twice as fiscally irresponsible as is the current President.

    Nice job!

    Thankfully, it's not going to happen that way...but, that you think it's a responsible way to cast your vote is a sad commentary on the average Libertarians "blindness" on this election.
    Having a chance to win does not cons ute "running." Candidates run for office every year with very little chance of unseating in bents. They are still running. If you are mobilizing a significant base of people, you are running.

    Either you vote for the candidate you believe in or you're too scared to vote for the candidate you believe in. Voting for a particular candidate just so another candidate will lose is a poor use of your vote. I want fiscal responsibility. Bush hasn't delivered and Kerry certainly won't deliver. I'm not about to vote for a candidate who doesn't support my positions.

    If you really want fiscal conservatism you don't have to be afraid. All it takes is a little guts.

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    how is it good to vote for the third party, while getting Kerry elected. Id like that explained.

    Ice, loose the hatred shade of red, it is NOT your color.

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    Myth #1. A Demoncratic vote in Texas doesn't count for squat this year. Just as a Republican vote in Taxachussetts doesn't count for squat.
    It depends upon how many people believe that.

    Your vote is working towards something in the long run. A republican vote in Mass gets that state closer to going with a republican presidential candidate someday.

    It does not such thing. Perot turned public opinion against the third party in 1992. Nader did it in 2000. Bednarak will have no such impact on the 2004 vote so, it's likely the Libertarians won't suffer the wrath of the Green Party and the party started by Perot and propped up (briefly) by Jesse Ventura.
    The problem is that Nader was a one-hit wonder. Libertarians are in it for the long haul. They will be on the ballot year after year. Every vote they can get matters because they have a chance to build upon it next time. If they can do that, and do it again after that, and so on, they'll make a real difference eventually.

    Libertarians would do better by trying to influence Democratic or Republican party platforms -- not supplanting their base.
    Democrats and Republicans don't share the same views with Libertarians. That would be a mistake.

    I know there are only two viable candidates in this election and I'm going to vote for the one with whom I share the majority of my views on national issues. Who agrees with any one person 100% of the time?
    If Bush's views match yours more than any other candidate, all the power to you. But if you're voting for Bush even though the libertarian candidate's views most closely match your own, you're missing an opportunity to destroy the system that is partially responsible for our nation's problems.

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    problem is brodels, not enough people are there to destroy the "two party" system.

    There are too many polarized peopel on each side to end it.

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    might as well stick with those people, don't want to rock the boat

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    how is it good to vote for the third party, while getting Kerry elected. Id like that explained.
    It increases your base. And if that can be increased again in the next election, you've really gained something and you're working towards busting up the two-party system.

    I voted libertarian because I believe in protecting personal freedoms, keeping more of my money, decreasing government spending, eliminating federal deficits, and some other things.

    Either you vote for what you believe in or you're too scared to do it.

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