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    IMO, the story plays out like the airport was open to the idea, but could not comply with the rabbi's imposed two day deadline before legal action was initiated. Am I the only one who thinks that giving a municipally-run facility two days to get ANYTHING done, much less finding and installing an 8-foot Menorah, was a bit unrealistic?
    Well, as far as my understanding would take me, I believe that he already had, or knew where to get an 8 foot menorah, or else he would not have been so specific.

    If I am wrong, then he is wrong, but the situation also remains wrong, as well as peoples reaction to the problem at hand.

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    They are going back up. So they said this morning.

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    They are going back up. So they said this morning.
    Undoubtedly a stirring victory for the oppressed majority.


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    Oh, I don't know. They referred to them as "holiday trees". Not much of a
    victory for Christmas.

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    Oh, I don't know. They referred to them as "holiday trees". Not much of a
    victory for Christmas.
    That must hurt Mr. X, I'm sorry.

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    That must hurt Mr. X, I'm sorry.
    Ah, yes, me and my shadow. Good morning T85. Slept well I hope.

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    Ah, yes, me and my shadow. Good morning T85. Slept well I hope.
    Just been waiting to hear your replies.

    Don't leave me dissapointed.

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    December 12, 2006

    Trees Being Returned to SeaTac Airport

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Filed at 6:56 a.m. ET

    SEATAC, Wash. (AP) -- Christmas trees are going back up at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

    Pat Davis, president of the Port of Seattle commission, which directs airport operations, said late Monday that maintenance staff would restore the 14 plastic holiday trees, festooned with red ribbons and bows, that were removed over the weekend because of a rabbi's complaint that holiday decor did not include a menorah.

    Airport managers believed that if they allowed the addition of an 8-foot-tall menorah to the display, as Seattle Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky had requested, they would also have to display symbols of other religions and cultures, which was not something airport workers had time for during the busiest travel season of the year, Airport Director Mark Reis said earlier Monday.

    Port officials received word Monday afternoon that Bogomilsky's organization would not file a lawsuit at this time over the placement of a menorah, Davis said in a statement.

    ''Given that, the holiday trees will be replaced as quickly as possible,'' he said.

    Davis added that the rabbi ''never asked us to remove the trees; it was the port's decision based on what we knew at the time.''

    There were no immediate plans to display a menorah, airport spokesman Bob Parker said, saying restoration of the trees was expected to take place overnight Monday.

    ''A key element in moving forward will be to work with the rabbi and other members of the community to develop a plan for next year's holiday decorations at the airport,'' the port statement said.

    The rabbi has also offered to give the port an electric menorah to display, said his lawyer, Harvey Grad.

    ''We are not going to be the instrument by which the port holds Christmas hostage,'' Grad said, emphasizing the rabbi never sought removal of the trees, but addition of the menorah.

    The rabbi had received ''all kinds of calls and emails,'' many of them ''odious,'' Grad said, adding he was ''trying to figure out how this is consistent with the spirit of Christmas.''

    ( they're from "Christians" and racists, always filled with love and tolerance )

    Thirteen trees had sat above foyers that lead outside to the airport drive. The largest tree, which Reis estimated to be 15 or 20 feet tall, was placed in a large lobby near baggage claim for international arrivals.

    After the removal, some airline workers decorated ticketing counters with their own miniature Christmas trees.

    Customer service agents with Frontier Airlines pooled their money Monday morning to buy four 1-foot-high Christmas trees, which they placed on the airline's ticketing counter. Atop a Delta counter, workers put up a tree several feet tall.

    The airlines lease space for ticket counters from the airport, and can display trees there if they want, Reis said.

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    On the Net:

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    www.chabad.org

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    ( they're from "Christians" and racists, always filled with love and tolerance )

    Yeah, because all Christians are racist and intolerant right?

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    Mr 85, I am not oppressed or depressed. I am
    just pointing out the fact that folks like you don't
    seem to realize: Millions can want and enjoy
    something and one lousy Rabbi, yeah, a Jew,
    can look at it as he is being left out or offended
    and change the whole tradition of our country.

    You of course, being the educated fool that you
    are, would not see that. Now same sex marriage
    is your thingy. That is real a civil rights issue while
    Christian culture which got you where you are,
    is not a civil rights issue. You must have the
    right to screw some other guy in the butt or
    take his member in your mouth or put on a dildo
    and stick in your lovers vagina or your tongue,
    what ever turns you on. That it is a civil rights
    issue. You/they have that right now. We "straights"
    say fine, do it, just don't pretend that you are
    like man and woman, because you damn well
    aren't!

    Maybe we should embrace it, it at least would
    cut down on abortions, which most of you seem
    to think doesn't take a human life.

    But oppressed, I am not. I have my God and
    that is who I embrace and celebrate on the
    coming date that was chosen as his birthday.
    And to let a simple twerp like you ruin he joy
    and good cheer which Christians enjoy. I
    don't think so. And the great part is, I know
    you will sit down with your family and enjoy the
    same. So My Friend. Merry Christmas, Happy
    New Year and May God Bless You, Your Family
    and Girl Friend.
    you are the DEFINITION of ignorance

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    Hire some people to dress up as hisidic jews. What conveys their religion more than that? I don't think they have to be jewish, per say. I believe the trees are artificial.

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    Why would the airport feel compelled to put up other iconic symbols representing other religions and cultures, if those religions and cultures have nothing to do with December 25th?

    The menorah I can see, but making it inclusive of all religions? A better use of the PC card is to create displays during the time of year that those other religions and cultures celebrate their own high and holy days.

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    So they don't have time to put up any other symbols, but they can put up 14 large trees "as quickly as possible."

    Anyway, it's nice to see both of them come to a compromise so this can be resolved next season. The last thing anybody wants is for Xray to have to sing spirituals as he's being oppressed.

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    you are the DEFINITION of ignorance

    Careful now, you are going to hurt my feelings.

    I did make one error in my original post, Jesus birthday. Not God's. The
    rest I stick with.

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    So they don't have time to put up any other symbols, but they can put up 14 large trees "as quickly as possible."

    Anyway, it's nice to see both of them come to a compromise so this can be resolved next season. The last thing anybody wants is for Xray to have to sing spirituals as he's being oppressed.
    Er, they already had the trees as part of their inventory? I believe the assertion was that they did not have the time to get the necessary approvals and the subsequent installation of the menorah within the two days deadline.

    But we are talking about a government agency here, so I am sure they wanted a committee formed to discuss the matter.

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    So they don't have time to put up any other symbols, but they can put up 14 large trees "as quickly as possible."

    Anyway, it's nice to see both of them come to a compromise so this can be resolved next season. The last thing anybody wants is for Xray to have to sing spirituals as he's being oppressed.

    Johnny my boy, you didn't read my post, obviously. I am not oppressed nor
    depressed. Just fed up with PC junk.

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