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Forgot about OK State. Maybe that bumps them up to the #2 conference overall, but Florida is the best team in the Nation and Tennessee can play with anyone any given game.
You kind of have to throw OSU into the mix on that Big 12 front... I think Alabama/Arkansas might be a little overrated too...
Forgot about OK State. Maybe that bumps them up to the #2 conference overall, but Florida is the best team in the Nation and Tennessee can play with anyone any given game.
you forgot about LSU as well. i'd have to say:
1. Pac-10
2. SEC
3. Big 12
...Big 12 is right there though, there a lot of good teams unranked that can hang. we'll see how it plays out as the year goes, i might put big 12 second later.
Yeah, I want Chris Lofton to go to the Suns... P.S. Why didn't the Suns get Jason Kapono instead of Eric PiaDNP this summer? Then again, who knew Kapono would finally start acting like a man and hitting 3's. He played well against the Lakers again last night.
Good catch on LSU as well. Knew there was someone missing.
Ugh... Three in a row and four of five. With NC in Tucson on Saturday. Thankfully Arizona has ASU on Wendesday to likely keep this from being an even longer streak, but to stay in the top 25, they'll need win both games this week. It's possible. It's not like they have been blown out. They play bad and it's still good enough to compete. They need two good games. They can't overlook ASU for NC. ASU is going to be up for this game and Arizona, being down, is ripe for the picking.
tough stretch for 'zona, no doubt. but its not like they lost to bad teams, and as you mentioned, they weren't blown out or anything. currently SC is handling ASU...hopefully, they can get this conference win.
The Ducks got a nice win against Cal.
Realistically six teams deserve to be in the "March Madness" discussion, with a seventh being possible.
For sure: UCLA, Oregon
More than likely: Arizona, Washington State, USC
Hopefuls: Stanford, Washington
Next year: California
Ever? Arizona State, Oregon State
Washington needs to go better than .500 the rest of the way to realistically have a chance as the seventh team in from the Pac. Stanford does as well, but they have played much better of late, so I believe they get in.
I guess when Arizona has no depth and two of its starters are mired in shooting slumps, that when you have the #1 strength of schedule, that one or two wins was a little unreasonable. They've basically been one or two shots away in every one of their losses of late. Even with all five, and sitting at 13-5 overall, 4-4 in the Pac-10, they still are #4 in the RPI on the season.
RealTimeRPI.com Confirms Kenpom Above
Right now, I'd say Arizona is currently looking at a #4 seed with a chance to move as high as a #2 or fall as far as a #7. With home games still against teams like North Carolina, Washington State, Southern Cal and UCLA, there's a solid chance they can make up for this slide later in the year and closer to when the selection committee is really paying attention. The key is to only lose a total of two more games. I say at Oregon is likely one of them. That means they have to beat the teams they should (Stanford, Washington, California, Oregon State, Arizona State), then beat three of the following four of NC, Wazzu, USC and UCLA.
It's doable and if done, should net them as high as a #3 seed, considering their SOS and RPI. If they lose just one, then #2 isn't out of the question.
Stick a fork in OSU, ASU, and UW. UW is reeling, but they have a very young team that will make some noise in the next two years. OSU and ASU just don't support their basketball programs and it shows.
I remember the good ole days with Steve Johnson, Ray Blume, Mark Radford, Lester Connor, etc...
The Ducks will most likely lose tonight at UW. Aaron Brooks is suspended for tonight's game because of the elbow he threw during last year's Pac-10 tournament game against the Huskies. I don't think they can pull this game off without him.
Is that why UW is favored by 4? I couldn't believe that but didn't know about Brooks.
Ducks with a big win last night at WSU!
UCLA
sucks.
whoa, take a breather......its true.
As an Arizona fan, I'm going to pretend this thread doesn't exist
As an Arizona fan, I'm going to pretend this thread doesn't exist
As an Arizona fan, can you take back Jay John for me?
Can he teach big men? If not, we already have enough who don't/won't/can't.
Arizona really has too much talent to suck the way they do right now. If they don't pull their heads out of the asses, it's going to be a tragedy that they've blown what could be Lute's last Final Four team. Next year will be loaded with talent from guard to center, but this year's team has the veterans that should take a team far into the tourney. Right now, these same veterans aren't playing up to their abilities and it's costing them both this year and potentially come 2008's recruiting class. Entering Pac-10 play, Arizona was in the top-3 for a dozen top-50 players. I'm scared to find out where they sit now after Saturday's nationally-televised slapping.
HUGE win for Stanford over UCLA! It looks like the Pac-10 champ could have 4 or 5 losses this year.
This thread is a constant reminder of how much AZ SUCKS this yr!
Too bad, so sad.
Oregon 7 2 0.778 19 2 0.905 19 2 0.905 0.6315 14
UCLA 7 2 0.778 18 2 0.900 17 2 0.895 0.6999 1
Washington St 6 3 0.667 17 4 0.810 17 4 0.810 0.6061 33
Stanford 6 3 0.667 14 5 0.737 14 5 0.737 0.6102 29
Southern California 6 3 0.667 16 6 0.727 16 6 0.727 0.5821 57
Arizona 5 4 0.556 14 6 0.700 14 6 0.700 0.6558 6
California 4 5 0.444 12 9 0.571 12 9 0.571 0.5794 60
This is last year's 50-60 at this time:
The best way to parallel it is to show how others did at this time. See the teams that won a ton in a row; those teams shot up the RPI and got in the tourney.50 Vanderbilt 9.6 5.2 0.6486 0.5832 0.5614 42 (went 5-5 last 10 finished 72)
51 Nevada 13.2 4.2 0.7586 0.5822 0.5234 107 (won 14 in a row finished 19)
52 Washington 11.6 4.0 0.7436 0.5794 0.5247 102 (won last 8 reg season to finish 35)
53 Manhattan 12.2 4.4 0.7349 0.5779 0.5256 99 (mm)
54 Bradley 10.2 5.0 0.6711 0.5772 0.5459 64 (mm)
55 Iona 16.2 4.4 0.7864 0.5726 0.5014 156 (mm)
56 VCU 12.4 3.0 0.8052 0.5722 0.4946 169 (mm)
57 Iowa State 10.8 8.6 0.5567 0.5720 0.5771 25 (2-8 last 10 finished 93)
58 Virginia 8.0 6.4 0.5556 0.5695 0.5741 29 (4-6 last 10 finished 79)
59 Clemson 11.0 6.6 0.6250 0.5694 0.5508 59 (4-6 last 10 finished 77)
60 Western Kentucky 13.4 4.6 0.7444 0.5693 0.5109 136 (mm)
61 Kansas 10.6 6.4 0.6235 0.5688 0.5506 60 (won 15 of 16 finished 20)
62 Alabama 7.6 8.0 0.4872 0.5687 0.5958 13 (6-4 finished 57)
63 Arkansas 10.4 5.2 0.6667 0.5683 0.5355 80 (8 of 11 to finish 45)
64 Louisville 9.6 6.6 0.5926 0.5681 0.5600 44 (4-5 finished 71)
65 Houston 10.4 5.2 0.6667 0.5679 0.5350 83 (10 of 13 finished 54 - didn't get in)
66 Akron 13.8 2.8 0.8313 0.5669 0.4788 198 (mm)
67 California 9.6 5.2 0.6486 0.5656 0.5379 74 (10 of 13, P10 finals, finished 52)
68 Montana 13.6 2.6 0.8395 0.5654 0.4740 215 (mm)
69 Miami-Florida 9.6 7.2 0.5714 0.5651 0.5630 40
70 Louisiana Tech 12.6 4.6 0.7326 0.5643 0.5083 141
- Virginia and Clemson, both from the #1 RPI conf, both went 4-6 their last 10 and fell out of the tourney.
- Vandy, from the #2 RPI conf, went 5-5 and fell out.
- Bama, from the #2 RPI conf, finished 6-4 and #57 RPI. They, along with Seton Hall, were considered the last 2 teams in.
- Seton Hall went the back route, falling from a top 25 RPI, losing 5 of 8 including a 1st round exit of the BE tourney.
SC currently sits at #57. P10 is the #3 RPI conf. They are currently 2-1 last 12/1-0 last 10. In my eyes, according to the #s, they must go 5-4 from this point on to make it. They will not get in if they go 4-5.
They have 5 road games (UCLA, Zona, Wazzu, Az St, UW). We know they will win at Az St and Ore St at home, and you must imagine they beat Cal at home. They also have Ore and Stanf at home. Zona may be self destructing, so that win will be key. Right now, I would say they lose @ UCLA and Wazzu, plus Ore at home; 1-3. They win AzSt/OreSt/Cal; 4-3. That leaves to games to win from @ Zona, @ UW, Stanf.
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