Nah, I'm fine with replacing him if it'll help. I just haven't been convinced of that.
Yes, Barry crap. When's the last time Barry had a big game against a GOOD team? Suns, Lakers, Mavs...those were the games where we needed Barry's "newfound" 3 point shooting touch. We never got it. Don't get me wrong, he was playing amazing for a strech there. But you had to know it was fool's gold and that he would come back down to Earth as he has.
Only because Id love for all the naysayers and haters to bring up a logical replacement.TPark and chumpdumper are Pop-a-razzis
Thats when the insults fly because no one can.
BTW, There is no coach available who can do a better job than Pop for the Spurs.
Yes, Barry crap. When's the last time Barry had a big game against a GOOD team? Suns, Lakers, Mavs...those were the games where we needed Barry's "newfound" 3 point shooting touch. We never got it. Don't get me wrong, he was playing amazing for a strech there. But you had to know it was fool's gold and that he would come back down to Earth as he has.
Spot on.
Brent Barry is right on par with Carl Herrera as biggest FA busts this franchise has ever had.
Barry is absolutely worthless.
^I never said Brent Barry was worthless. I just said he's not the type of player who I'd feel confident to depend on in big games, especially in the playoffs. He's too inconsistent. And when his shooting is off, he doesn't do much of the "little things" to warrant so much playing time. I don't mind if he goes 1-7 in a game. But he doesn't play good defense and he doesn't rebound very well (2 things the Spurs need badly) to make up for it.
Nothing wrong with liking Pop.
I think he is a great coach too.
I don't get his rotations at all. Why take out players who are doing well? Oberto was the victim last night...Manu has been on numerous occasions. Give them a quick breather and put them right back in if that's what they need. If your vets are going to suck, give the younger players and "projects" some time in a real game. At worst, they do the same crap that the vets do...but they may do well, show signs of improvement, and extend the teams depth later in the season, which is non-existent at this point.
What's Pop going to do now? Does he have to do anything at all?
He already broke out the 'soft/pathetic' speech.
Is more verbal lashing going to make any difference?
Are the Spurs looking at their next practice session as the holy grail?
Will talking about all the things that went wrong make everything go away?
Or will it be like this: Praise the Spurs for holding the Mavs to 90, be 'thrilled' at how the Spurs competed, talk about what strong compe ors and proven winners the bench vets are, praise small-ball as keeping them in the game, and talk about how if only a couple of more shots went down?
that seems to make some sense, but that's not happening. The Spurs don't think the vets suck. They will refuse to play the 'projects' because that would mean that the vets didn't have it. The projects will stay on the farcical 'stephen jackson plan' myth and never get in a game earlier than the end of a 4th quarter blowout, IF they're even on the active roster, which is unlikely.If your vets are going to suck, give the younger players and "projects" some time in a real game. At worst, they do the same crap that the vets do...but they may do well, show signs of improvement, and extend the teams depth later in the season, which is non-existent at this point.
"What's Pop going to do now?"
How about:
"If you don't want to play to your abilities, you guys.
I'm tired of filling in as team leader/motivator.
You guys elect and follow you're own leader. I'll coach, but it's your team, it's your lives and careers."
That may be true, but while Pop is " ing around" with the rotations and demonstrating allegiance to old players who are past their prime, this team is losing both games and confidence. If Barry, Finley and Horry aren't cutting it - and they aren't - sit their asses down. Play Williams and Bonner more - and of course, get Maggette in here.
I think another interesting question would be if Pop would ever be guilty of what might be perceived as compe ive gamesmanship. Yelling out "double", as Avery reportedly did, is really very crafty and strategic in one sense but it could also be considered on par with yelling "lookout!" I see players doing that, including waving a towel up and down quickly during a FT. I just don't usually hear or see Head Coaches do it that often, other than standing up and talking as an opposing FT is shot.
Pop seems to choose the high ground...at least from my perspective.
The problem is you like Pop to much.
Well, for all we know, AJ may have seen Pop yell out a bogus instruction when he played under Pop. I don't really know...that's why I posed the question.
That's because you've never asked
It's just, "well, how many championships do you have coaching an NBA team", or "I think it was great to run game winning plays for Bonner and Bowen, if Pop thinks those were good plays who the are you to criticize?"
Or spiteful like go find a sting ray and die. Either way, you look like an ass who spends more time on his knees under Pop's desk than the guy's wife.
I think if Bob Hill were coaching an NBA team, he would...
no wait...
It will never happen.Where is that point?
Have the Spurs reached it?
Will they this season?
Pop gets any critical local media personality fired from his job, and he can always just scapegoat a poor performer in the playoffs and waive/trade them and float stories to the press about them being a locker room cancer.
Once again, sucks when someone throws the bull back in your face doesn't it.That's because you've never asked
It's just, "well, how many championships do you have coaching an NBA team", or "I think it was great to run game winning plays for Bonner and Bowen, if Pop thinks those were good plays who the are you to criticize?"
Or spiteful like go find a sting ray and die. Either way, you look like an ass who spends more time on his knees under Pop's desk than the guy's wife.
Youve always been asked, and you always respond with the bull you just did.
Making my point.
Bull ing . This is the first time you've even attempted to have a basketball discussion.
Pop doesn't need fired (yet). He does need to bring in an offensive 'coordinator', because his sets and use of the players sucks.
Of course, if he's going to trot out the same idiotic rotations he currently does (like all bench players for the Spurs vs. 4 starters and Stackhouse for Dallas, because 'it's time for me to play that rotation'), maybe we need to look at a new head man as well.
As for coaches...
* Scott Skiles
* AJ (I only list him #2 because Holt would be too cheap to get into a bidding war against Cuban)
* Phil Jackson
* Mike Brown
Anyone who isn't under contract with no chance of getting fired?
I'm a Mavs fan so i'm just throwing this out there... could Carlesimo step into the head coaching spot? Or is he strictly an assistant now?
Of course he could, but is he better?
Pop will turn this around, just need guys to make shots and play hard especially Finley, Bowen, Barry, Udrih and Horry (but most esp. Finley and Udrih)
If the Spurs had won game 7 against the Mavs last year, and it was a coin flip, the Spurs would have won the NBA championship. IMO.
The Spurs have lost 3 games in a row, for the first time in a long time, during a long season. Big deal.
I guess it's, "what have you done for me lately?" when it comes to Pop. The Spurs are fortunate to have the confluence of a solid coach along with Tim Duncan during this era. You may not pass this way again. Nothing is a given.
Pop has said he's retiring the day after Duncan. That's a good idea for him. He most likely will never have as good a team as he's had with Tim on it. Be careful what you wish for, you'll get it soon enough and you may not like what you get.
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