I know we have countless "Fire Pop!" everytime the Spurs lose. , if they don't beat a bad team by so many points, the Pop-a-nistas come out and call for his head and then the Pop-a-razzi defend him.
This is not a "get rid of Pop" thread but there is a point where you have to look at the head coach for improvement.
Where is that point?
Have the Spurs reached it?
Will they this season?
Discuss.
I think a lot of our losses are on Pop. He is way too stubborn in his rotations at times and I don't think he makes the right choices as a coach. Small ball is an obvious dumbass move a lot of times for him. I do think the team could be coached better, but there is not a coach out there right now (besides Avery Johnson) that could do so. I would love to have Avery Johnson as our coach, look what he did to the Mavs. I don't think the Mavs would be this good with Don Nelson as their coach.
I am a Mavs fan, so take this with that point of view. Pops decision to let Oberto cool his heels during the second half was quite puzzling to me. He had great energy and success in the first half. He might have made 3 - 5 points difference.
Yeah, I wasn't sure where the Oberto went. His motion on the baseline and 100% shooting must not have been what Pop was looking for.
I hate when Oberto does that!Yeah, I wasn't sure where the Oberto went. His motion on the baseline and 100% shooting must not have been what Pop was looking for.
Whatever, 3 championships, no one is better than Pop. I am still waiting for someone to tell me who out there is available and is better than Pop!!!!!
Sincerely,
Tpark
Pop is grooming the position for Larry Brown.
Probaly is his method, but I saw many times he sent to the bench the one who is hot and send to shot the one who is coldYeah, I wasn't sure where the Oberto went. His motion on the baseline and 100% shooting must not have been what Pop was looking for.
Also, was that play in the 4th coming out of a timeout with like 3 minutes to go really supposed to be an iso for Finley? He's a spot up shooter - well, used to be anyway.
Pop wants...
1) A better draft pick this year. A 21 pick is much better than a 29 pick.
2) The moral imperative to make a big trade. Losing a glut of games opens the door for something semi-drastic.
I think we're rapidly approaching that point, particularly concerning Pop's stubborness with the small ball issue.
His defense last year was that we didn't have the appropriate bigs to keep up with Dallas, and when you're packing Rasho Nesterovic and Nazr Mohammad, it's hard to disagree.
But even missing Sisco last night, Oberto played extremely efficiently at the pivot whenever he was on the floor. He applied hard nosed defense to Dirk, worked the boards, and most importantly, kept the ball moving.
But for some dumbass reason, Pop decides to go small in the fourth when Dallas starts posting some momentum, and it was all downhill from there. After that, we got beat consistently on the boards and, more importantly, the offense completely stalled. Ball movement died and everything went iso.
Pop has the brilliant idea to reinsert Fabs for the last play, and what happens? Defense gets drawn in the the P&R, and Bruce Bowen gets a wide-open three from the corner with the Mavericks focused on defending the arc.
Stick with what won you three les, Pop.
Fire Pop. Just so you guys will find something new to about.
I just lost my lunch.
Just as long as you can about everybody else ing.
He plays too much on small ball.
He's got some bad old players in the team.
He's not playing on Tim anymore.
He sucks, get rid of gim.
Isn't Pop a gm also?
If so, Pop the GM is the problem, not the coach. Pop has always stressed defense, but this year he just doesn't have the players that can play in that type of system. I think he is one of the best coaches in the game, but I also think he has missed out on many opportunities as a GM to make a trade or two to bring in some players that can fit into the defensive system that he calls for. He believes in defense, and undoubtedly he stresses it, and although the players on his team probably want to play it, some of the players are just too old, or are just not athletic enough to play in the system from a physical standpoint.
Hire Javtokas as coach.
?? Why would we do that?
Why wouldn't we?
I haven't heard any other names at this point. At least I put a name out there.
I think last night's loss falls squarely on him.
Oberto not playing doesn't bother me, because he stinks.
Eric WIlliams, who is taylor made to play the damn Mavericks and guard Nowtizki, not even getting some time, along with Bonner pissed me off so much, that when he took Horry out with 8 07 left in the 4th, I knew the Spurs had lost the game.
If I was Holt, I would honestly have to have a sit down with him, and ask him why Williams and Bonner didn't play last night.
Or, WTF did we even bother getting em, if were not gonna play em?
If hes passed on Maggette, wich, we still don't have an answer if that trade was even proposed for real, then IMO, if the Spurs don't get it done, then a new leader is needed.
If Holt is the problem? Then were all pissing in the wind, because there is definately nothing can be done about that.
What I don't understand is Pop's reluctance to keep guys like Eric Williams, Matt Bonner, Butler, and company on the bench in favor of guys like Horry, Beno, Finley, and Barry who have done crap all season. Why not give the new guys a chance? Weren't they aquired in the hopes of helping us beat the Mavs?
No. Bonner and Williams were acquired to get rid of Rasho's contract. Butler was acquired with no intention of playing him until next season - he's just a project. They didn't even know if Williams was in shape enough to be cut or kept. Bonner was just gravy with no expectations and no plans of using him to defend the Mavs.
The only player that was acquired with the Mavs in mind was Elson.
Holt knows that got them to get rid of a big contract. I doubt he cares if they play them against the Mavs.
this is Pop we're talking about. The same coach who ran Steve Smith and Terry Porter into the ground while Stephen Jackson sat inactive with mythical tendinitis or some other fake injury.Why not give the new guys a chance?
Those new guys like Butler will only get a chance if multiple guys get hurt.
It is what it is.
Barry crap?
Barry has stunk over the last 4-5 games. He played extremely well the first 20.
Horry, Beno and Finley I agree with. They have done bigtime crap.
TPark and chumpdumper are Pop-a-razzis.
Sequ, AHF, Walton and many other are Pop-a-nistas.
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