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    Great another Mavs vs Suns thread.
    and chances are, it'll turn into MVP discussion...

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    Great another Mavs vs Suns thread.
    eh, its been a while since we have had a good one. lol

    im just waiting for RonMexico to jump in though, and to see what kinds of off-the-wall things he will say, and how he will attempt to insult the Mavs and their fans, instead of talking about the subject at hand, because he doesnt know what the hes talking about.

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    seriously who coudl they get that could dramaticly improove their rebounding with out giving up a marion or a diaw?

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    oh dont get me wrong, they can compete. there is no question about that. but they wont win anything. there is a BIG difference between being compe ive and winning. the Jazz will be compe ive, but they wont win a damn thing.

    back to the Suns, they dont rebound the ball well, or play good defense. you HAVE to do those things to win in the playoffs. simple as that.
    You need much more then that. You have to be able to handle physical ball constantly, have great coaching, have role players stepping up, your best player picking his game up as the playoffs go on especially in the finals, team chemistry, health and even a little luck.

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    That being said I wonder how we would do against this years suns in a 7 game series.

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    You need much more then that. You have to be able to handle physical ball constantly, have great coaching, have role players stepping up, your best player picking his game up as the playoffs go on especially in the finals, team chemistry, health and even a little luck.
    ok. i agree with that 100%. and to add to it, you have to be able to rebound the basketball, and play defense. however, those are probably the two most important basics. all games start with defense and rebounding. if you do those things, everything else falls into place.

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    That being said I wonder how we would do against this years suns in a 7 game series.
    IMO, the Lakers would absolutely win. they barely lost the series last year in 7 games, and the Lakers have improved much more than the Suns have.

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    that pic of raja and nash on the suns.com website is too cute, those little tigers are adorable!

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    that pic of raja and nash on the suns.com website is too cute, those little tigers are adorable!
    gah! I hate the suns' website. They always have those re ed flash intros..

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    I am glad the suns lost today cos i think the mavs will lose to the rockets tommorrow..

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    IMO, the Lakers would absolutely win. they barely lost the series last year in 7 games, and the Lakers have improved much more than the Suns have.
    If Kobe gets others involved and if we CONSTANTLY attack the basket especially Odom, then we do have a realistic chance of pulling an upset.

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    gah! I hate the suns' website. They always have those re ed flash intros..
    haha, my bf was just ing about that because he's trying to get on their site to see if this was the lowest scoring game for them this season...i type in something like /schedule to avoid that stupid flash stuff

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    I am glad the suns lost today cos i think the mavs will lose to the rockets tommorrow..
    me too! hmmm, well, i hope we're both wrong!

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    If Kobe gets others involved and if we CONSTANTLY attack the basket especially Odom, then we do have a realistic chance of pulling an upset.
    yea Odom is the key. honestly, i think the Lakers have the ability to beat any team in the league in a 7 game series, but Odom and Luke Walton are the keys. i dont think they will beat the Mavs or Spurs in a 7 game series, of all the teams in the west, the only team i even fear a little bit for the Mavs, is the Lakers. you never know what Kobe will do.

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    Could it be that the Suns Offense is their best Defense? If the Suns are healthy with Nash, they shoot lights out from 3 and run. It forces the other teams to play from behind and rush shots. Most of those shots are missed which add to the Suns defensive stats. When the Suns have to play at the other teams tempo, it seems that it is harder for the Suns to get rebounds when needed and stops when needed. Just my thoughts.

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    Could it be that the Suns Offense is their best Defense? If the Suns are healthy with Nash, they shoot lights out from 3 and run. It forces the other teams to play from behind and rush shots. Most of those shots are missed which add to the Suns defensive stats. When the Suns have to play at the other teams tempo, it seems that it is harder for the Suns to get rebounds when needed and stops when needed. Just my thoughts.
    that is exactly their "defense". but when their shots arent falling, or if they are playing teams that are mentally mature enough to know that they are not supposed to get into a run-and-gun game, and slow the tempo down, taking good shots, then that "defense" falls apart. basically, the Suns would have to rely on hitting their shots to beat such teams, as opposed to shutting them down and limiting their shot opportunities with hard-nosed, physical defense.

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    OMG, the GSW announcer just said "you can bet your booty on that" LMFAO!!!

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    Suns don't play defense unless their offense is clicking. Yes, their offense forces other teams to play at their pace and that helps, but they pick up both ends of their game when the offense is at its best. Either way, I'm glad Kurt Thomas got injured now instead of at the end of the season... and if he and Nash stay healthy throughout, then I can see another WCF run depending on seeding.

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    A fully healthy suns team would own the lakers. That is counting on Nash, Diaw, and Kurt Thomas being fully healthy. The suns are still the second best team and are struggling because of injuries. Their team defense has gone down along with their offense because players are confused with their roles since they just got put into it. So in a strange way the suns defense got worse with the injuries despite the players that got injured aren't known for their defense except Thomas.

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    What a joke, stretch.

    If the Suns are healthy in the playoffs, they'll be fine and will compete with anyone.

    For having won no les, you Mavs fans have to be the most arrogant bunch of fans I've ever come in contact with.
    Gee, who'd have thought the team with the best record in the NBA would have some arrogant fans.

    And spare me the "regular season championship", "how many les?" nonsense. You think Celtics fans should be running around oozing arrogance screaming "16 championships!" down the streets? All that matters is the here and now. Mavs fans are arrogant here and now cause our team is kicking the out of everyone here and now. Don't need any trophies to do that.

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    * running down street*
    "16 championships!"
    "16 championships!"
    "16 championships!"

    *stops and thinks*
    "This isn't the 1986 season, it's the 2006 season."

    *Ron Simmons form the WWE looks at me and says*
    "DAMN!"

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    For the second season in a row, Thomas has gone down and whatever defensive improvements that have been made have gone down with him. At one-point this season, the Suns had a better defensive FG% than the Mavs and were consistantly in the top-10, peaking at around 6th. No longer... I have no idea why they no longer care. I have observations, but they sound more like excuses, so I won't entertain the thought...
    It starts and ends with D'Antoni. Unless he demands the effort on defense, he won't get it. It's that way with any coach/team for the most part. D'Antoni is more interested in offensive perfection (which at times the Suns come close to). It really is scary how similar he is to Don Nelson (outside of different ways to run an offense) in how he runs a team.

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    A fully healthy suns team would own the lakers. That is counting on Nash, Diaw, and Kurt Thomas being fully healthy. The suns are still the second best team and are struggling because of injuries. Their team defense has gone down along with their offense because players are confused with their roles since they just got put into it. So in a strange way the suns defense got worse with the injuries despite the players that got injured aren't known for their defense except Thomas.

    Hey for once I actually agree with you. Well, it might not be the first time.

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    How many more Suns vs Mavs threads are we going to have to endure? I can't wait for the playoffs to settle this at least for this season.

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