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I have a box of .45 rounds they can have.
speak for yourself.even if it DOES cost more.. who gives a , we can foot the bill...
I prefer my tax dollars be spent on better things.
I have a box of .45 rounds they can have.
If she is given death penalty, then your tax dollars will be going to countless appeals rather that would cost more in the long run than just leaving her in prison for life.
Besides, in prison people who with kids are never treated well. I would be surprised if she lasted five years. Remember, there is a BIG difference between county jail and a penitentiary.
I usually try to watch Lock Up, on MSNBC, and people who get harrased by other inmates can usually file for a complaint and they get sent to stay with people who have done the same crime as them or they're just isolated and since it's a woman, she'll have a better chance of getting that if she is harrased. I don't know if it's like that for every jail and my expertise is just solely based on MSNBC, so I maybe wrong.
So... she is going to be sent to stay with other prisoners who killed their children and let their bodies rot under their house?
And she can still be harassed or even murdered in isolation. I don't think people understand how a penitentiary works compared to just 'jail'.
like keeping her alive and with a hot meal every morning? ok!
I don't think it would be cruel or unusual punishment to beat both the mother and BF to death with blows to the body and head until they are unresponsive.
It's more like people of a specific race, orientation, crime, are lumped together for safety reasons or if that still doesn't work, the inmate is sent to another part of the jail where only inmates who don't want to be in the presence of all the violence, gang related and other stuff that happens in general population and/or given murder threats or beatdowns.
Also, she is a woman, so is she gonna be in the pen. with just women or both? I've never heard of killings/shanks/drug killings/gang killings/money laundering in an all women pen. Maybe it goes unnoticed, but I'm kinda sure that women don't operate the same way as men in the pen., but that's just me.
I have to agree with T Park on this one
eye for and eye
There are separate prisons for females. A penitentiary is for people convicted of serious crimes--so yes, female drug dealers, murderers, kidnappers, etc are all lumped together.
And if you don't think that women doing hard time or life sentences are just as manipulative, violent and vengeful as their male counterparts, you are kidding yourself.
Salazar is being held on a $1 million bond on a driver’s license charge. Police are working to build a case against him in connection with the children.
He's got a million dollar bond for an expired license. he could be halfway to Mexico if not for that.
Now all they gotta do is catch those ers that killed the EB games store emoloyee
But she can probably get off on some insanity deal, as there is something obviously wrong with her. And then we can pay for her to live out her life in some hospital; and sinceshe's only 19,she could easily go another 70 yrs
Whatever happens, there is a special place in for her.
Just let her go, then no one loses tax dollars!
She'll be judged in whatever afterlife exists.
I was friends (in high school) with the woman that drowned her child a month ago in Atascosa. It's just a sad situation...and this one is even worse. I can't even imagine what was going on w/them during those times.
I made no statement or asserstion as to anything having to do with her fault, so don't misconstrue my words in that manner. What I said very plainly was that I am not suprised that in a society where people make statements as are being made in this thread that situations like the above occur. When people become so damn desensitized that they can make these utterly horrible wishes of death on anyone then its a damn good measuring stick on the society's acceptence of gross violence.
The woman in question obviously bears responsibility for what happened herself - but that doesn't mean there aren't signs the worst parts of our society in this thread outside of her.
Better fate than what? When did I say anything about who was deserving? Do you people have so much trouble reading that you can't follow a very simple sentence without drawing your predisposed perceptions into it?What, do you think a woman who killed her own kid because it cried deserves a better fate than that?
See what I said 2 posts above.
You know Manny is 100% right. The people desensatized to this violence, the ones that wish horrible death as "justice", these are the people that lose their temper and impulsively injure or kill someone.
Why is it bad to torture someone to death that is innocent but then you can turn around and do it in the name of justice? That's not justice, that's revenge, and revenge can never justify the means without also justifying the crime for which it was done in retribution for.
I got your point, I just don't happen to agree. All the nasty, bloody, violent thoughts in the world mean nothing if they are not acted upon. And no, I don't think "it's only a matter of time before they are."
No, it's punishment.
Last edited by desflood; 03-11-2007 at 07:18 AM.
Just look at any group of females in middle or high school and you'll see manipulation, violence and vengeance that could put male prisoners to shame.
This was so sad. I work a block away from where this happened and couldn't believe what was done to those poor kids. I thought it was too unreal and my coworkers were overexaggerating. It just makes me sick. I see signs of abuse and neglect everyday and its all I can do to keep my composure sometimes when I'm working with my young kids. I don't know how parents get away with some of the stuff I see.
To my understanding the family was trying to do something and get those kids away but they were putting their trust alot in CPS. Which I have seen drop the ball alot. They are seriously not staffed enough and its sad. I pray for those two children. Breaks my heart.
So you believe a society where these thoughts are more prevelant is not more likely to be far more violent than one where those thoughts are far less common?
Because that makes complete sense - and by complete I mean none.
And if you understood what my point was, then why did you post a complete red herring?
Last edited by MannyIsGod; 03-11-2007 at 04:33 PM.
Manny, you just love to play ing Devil's advocate don't you. On every single topic, from Tylenol against Asprin to this.
People can think whatever they want, there's no thought police to come and bust you, and if it makes you feel better for criticizing on other ways of imaginative thinking, then go do it, because it's a free country.
How are people induced to think this way? You have to look at what the certain society has to offer -- basically the media. America has violent media, so does Europe and Japan etc, but I'm pretty sure they have different cide rates and I think USA ranks number 1 in that catogery I'm not 100% sure. People can't express there rage in public, otherwise they'd look stupid and they can't say whatever thing comes into there mind, so the best place is on the internet, and a place like this one where you can say almost anything.
Well, I'm sure, no cross that, there are way more men serving hard time sentences for murder, drug, grand theft etc. and I'm pretty sure that a majority of people anywhere have a hard time believing that women launder drugs or money and do hire killings in jail, in fact, I've never heard of a case ever in my 18 years of life of a serious drug related or serial killer that is a woman or have heard of jail crimes done by women.
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