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The Rockets are just a good PG away.
You should worry about your Lakers before coming down on the Rockets.
Bynum? I'm sure there's alot of teams banking on the future...like say the Hawks, Bobcats, Sixers; those are the mentality of a lottery team.
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The Rockets are just a good PG away.
You should worry about your Lakers before coming down on the Rockets.
Bynum? I'm sure there's alot of teams banking on the future...like say the Hawks, Bobcats, Sixers; those are the mentality of a lottery team.
Pretty much exactly what I said - he can't get his head out of Jerry Buss's ass long enough to realize it
That and he's now obsessed with the Kobe "witch-hunt"
So are you a Rockets fan or a Suns fan? Don't tell me you're one of those people that say they have multiple teams.
As for Mitch and Smush I have a dartboard with both of their pictures up on it. Everytime I think of Smush being our starting PG I break out the ol dartboard. But if it took Bynum to get a PG, no thanx. We'll take our lumps this year and wait it out. As for Lamar being the most important player on the team, if you're talking about that we need him to succeed than I will agree. He's inconsistent and we need a consistent Odom to succeed. We know what we're getting with Kobe. Now if you're trying to say that Odom is the best player on the Lakers, then you've been smoking way to many rocks. Just because he made Marion his last year doesn't mean he's the best player on the team. Bringing up our record and calling it pathetic? It must be nice to conveniently forget that Odom, Kwame, Walton, Mihm, and Radmanovic have been hurt for extended periods of time this year. We usually have at least 2 of our starters hurt every game. Kind of hard to win a lot of games when you've been through the injuries we have this year. Farmar is trade bait, he will be moved for the right piece. Bynum will only be moved for a couple of players. He's as close to untouchable as you can get. As for trying to win now. If the move doesn't bring us a ring, we'd rather not do it. We have a nice young center that will be a force in this league. The Lakers play to win Championships, not just make a nice showing in the playoffs. Maybe you should have given the Rocket FO that memo.
Last edited by Purple & Gold; 03-15-2007 at 08:18 PM.
Coming down on the Rockets? I made one observation about how I thought it was dumb to trade the #8 pick for Battier. I think it was a dumb move. I like Yao, he's one of my favorite players in this league. I think they should have built around him, instead of building around him and T-Mac. You must be a new Rockets fan and not understand that building a solid team is through the draft and not with quick fixes. Honestly, I expect more from Rocket fans. It's not like you haven't won a ring before.
Stick to commenting on your own team. You sound stupid when you talk about things you don't know.
I'm from Phoenix and not a Rockets fan, but I just can't figure out why you keep ripping on them so much when your teams are so alike. Let's break it down very quickly:
You say the Lakers are building around Kobe and Bynum... ok, Rockets are building around Yao and T-Mac... therefore, both teams' have a core of a playmaking swingman and dominant (or "future dominant" in Bynum's case) center.
Now, what other piece do they need to add in order to make it click?... well, the Lakers have Lamar Odom who was playing extremely well this year before his injuries - a guy that can pass, shoot and rebound... on the other hand, the Rockets have Shane Battier, a hustle guy who will get rebounds, play tough man-to-man defense, and knock down open jumpers.
Next, the Lakers have Luke Walton who really is coming into his own this year as a passer and shooter and the only other guy at his size and position that can pass like that is Boris Diaw... the Rockets do not have a similar counterpart for Walton because he is a rare commodity, but Houston also plays a different style with a slower pace, crashing the boards and defensive intensity. Therefore, a tough, hardworking bruiser like Chuck Hayes fits very well with this team and there's a reason he's taken over the starting duties from Juwan Howard: Van Gundy and the fans love his toughness and energy, much like I think the fans in LA have grown fond of Luke's abilities to "do the little things" and his expanded outside game.
Lastly, both teams are lacking at the point guard position with shoot-first streetballers starting for both squads: Smush Parker for the Lakers and Rafer Alston for the Rockets... both players are the biggest weaknesses on their respective teams and each FO hasn't been able to make the moves necessary to get the PGs they need. Also, both teams don't have much on the bench, although the Lakers have the edge because I think Farmar already is really good and will develop into a quality PG... the Rockets really have a shooting guard in Luther Head and an undersized and underskilled John Lucas III in reserve.
I can make more comparisons (i.e. tall, white PF that can shoot the 3 - Vlad for the Lakers and Steve Novak for the Rockets), but that's tedious... you get the point I'm trying to make. Therefore, I don't understand why you can rip on the Rockets for trading away a lottery pick in a draft that wasn't very deep for a proven guy who will fit right into their system. The Rockets have suffered their fair share of injuries to Yao and T-Mac this year, but they're still holding strong to the 5th spot. As long as Van Gundy is the coach, these are the types of players they will put into this system. Basically, both teams need better PGs, but those guys are scarce these days and can cost a lot in trades.
Maybe you should take some of your own advice and "stick to commenting on your own team." I may not watch the Lakers or Rockets a lot and know everything about them, but I definitely know basketball and I certaintly know the NBA, so please show a little more humility and respect. You can only throw out the "all our starters are injured" plea so many times before it falls on deaf ears. And I think you'd actually realize that the Rockets won those two rings in the 90s by building around a center (Hakeem) and adding proven guys (Clyde Drexler, Kenny Smith) to the mix in order to win those les. Teams like Orlando (who they swept in the Finals) definitely built their teams up with drafts, but the veterans won those les for the Rockets.
^^ Not reading all of this. If I thought it would be interesting and if I thought you had something intelligent to add maybe I would. But to clear it up for you one last time: Tracy McGrady has back issues. I would build around Yao and not T-Mac and Yao. Battier is IMO only worth trading a lottery pick for if he's the "missing piece". The Rockets are more than just a Shane Battier away from winning a ring.
But I did read the last paragraph and there you go again breaking your arm patting yourself on the back. You don't sound like you know a lot about basketball and the NBA. I don't think you actually realize how many players have been injured. But if you don't buy it I could really care less. And the Rockets actually did build through the draft. Robert Horry and Sam Cassell were huge pieces to that team. They were draft picks by the Rockets.
Last edited by Purple & Gold; 03-16-2007 at 01:12 AM.
How are Sam Cassell and Robert Horry any different than them adding Luther Head and another pick this year? Re .
We'll the difference is that the Rockets in the 90's signed free agents. They didn't trade away lottery picks. You get it now?
how can you be taken serious when you admit you dont even read posts in an argument?
good luck to you and your team sir. i dont plan on replying to any of your posts soon.
Who would you have picked last year smart ass? Rudy Gay? ing idiot - Gay will never pan out as you think he will because he has a terrible at ude... actually, no wonder you like him, he reminds you of your entire starting line-up
(Oh yeah, remember when Bynum started thinking he was the earlier in the year and Phil benched his ass for showing up late and lazy to practice?)
Beig a Memphis fan, Ive seen both Rudy Gay, and Shane Battier. Shane Battier is a versatile player with the size to play inside and the range to score from further out (particularly the corner three-pointer). However, he makes his living as a hustle player on the defensive end, where he defends three positions (shooting guard, power forward, small forward) with a high degree of skill, nets a good number of blocks and steals, dives for loose balls, and frequently draws offensive fouls from his opponent.
Whether or not he is a great defensive player is all your own opinion. I personally thought he was a great asset to us. I thought the trade was good for both teams. While Shane isnt Houston's missing piece, they are lucky to have a player like him. Memphis, at the cost of wins and fan attendance, wants to have a youthful team, and were willing to trade our best player, Gasol before the trade deadline for some young players. Finding none they really liked, they decided to keep him.
Gay might have some at ude issues, but the FO is confident they have a great prospect on their hands. I'll agree, however, with Purple & Gold, and say that Houston could have used a lotto pick on someone better. They had Marcus Williams still on the board, but I guess they are confident that they can get Chauncey Billups in FA this year, and if they do they will have used both the draft and free agency deftly, and have a great lineup of Yao, Tracy, Shane, Chauncey, and I suppose Juwan at PF.
Bottom line is. The Rockets are a PG away from being a good team in the West. Yes they could have taken a PG or a Pf with the 8th pick, but they got aproven player in Battier, and could trade for their PG, or sign him.
The Lakers are injury riddled, thats whats stopped them from being better this year.
Still you have to think Bynum, Kobe, Odom, and I think Walton starts for them, and with Farmar looking like a good prospect, they are also a team to watch for.
dang raptors making a comeback after being down by 22 points to the rockets
as soon as I stop watching to go do a paper.
If he had ever had a good take before, then I would have read his long-winded post.
I'll try not to lose any sleep over it.good luck to you and your team sir. i dont plan on replying to any of your posts soon.
Yes I would have kept Rudy Gay. I would have traded down and picked up one of the many PG's in the draft. I would have tried to trade up and grab one of the other players. There's many things I would have done. I wouldn't have made that trade though. But that's just my opinion.
And your point about Bynum? You seem to be a great judge of character, especially for people that you don't even know. I know you read a lot of ABC and ESPN articles, but come on now. You also seem to have no clue on how Phil operates. Why don't you ask Kareem what his opinion of Bynum is. Let me remind you one more time that he is the youngest player ever drafted.
Age?
^^ For Bynum? 19. He was 17 when drafted, with limited time playing basketball. He is basically as raw as it gets.
Dumbass, Bynum said it in an interview at the beginning of the year. He got off to a hot start and then said that he'd been getting limited minutes in a few games because he showed up late to practice and was letting his good play get to his head. Not denying that everyone still likes him, but he admitted Phil was sending a message.
ABC doesn't have sports articles... they have "ESPN Basketball on ABC"... often, they show games on Sundays... if you've ever turned on a TV before
great comebackroxs 114-100.
I hope you finished your paper, b/c your team could not finish the game
your raptors were all badazz on 2-28th when Yao was still out
Well Ron once again you do nothing but jump to conclusions and act like if you really know what's going on. The real story is that Bynum always goes to practice before anybody else to practice with Kareem. Kareem for whatever reason wasn't going to be able to make it that day, so Bynum figured he didn't have to go to practice early. He did show up when the regular team does. Phil didn't like that. So I guess you can say he was late technically, it was also a bit of a misunderstanding. But to say he's lazy is ridiculous. You would sure know he wasn't lazy if you saw how much he has improved and how much stronger he has become. And by now I would think you know how Phil operates, it's common knowledge that he plays mind games with everybody, especially a young 19 year old center that has the city of L.A. in his hands. So come on Ron don't let your blind hate for the Lakers obstruct your view. And please before you start commenting on teams and players you might want to actually watch them play instead of just reading ABC/ESPN/Disney articles.
Last edited by Purple & Gold; 03-18-2007 at 01:40 PM.
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