too slow and plodding against the Suns
SUCKK!!!!! Yao looks old and crippled. What Happened to the dominating Yao and the unstoppable T-Mac.![]()
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too slow and plodding against the Suns
McGrady shooting 7-25 and Barbosa having a career night doesn't help either.
yao is just coming off a major injury, and playing the 2nd night of a b2b.
It looked like he was limping all night. If you are limping should you play? Maybe he needs a couple more weeks to rest his leg. They just did not look good at all.
all 3 games so far against the suns are back to back games for the rockets while the suns have 3 days of rest
JVG should have put Snyder on Barbosa in the 2nd half. big athletic guard would have slowed him down. instead JVG wanted to play catch up ball and jack up 3s all night while Rafer and Tmac bricked em.
Yao had big night last night, 37 pts etc... expected a slow game from him
Yao has never played well against the Suns. Never. As long as the Suns run length and athleticism at him for 40 minutes, he'll always struggle. He's just not quick enough to react with certainty on any move or pass. He's on system overload awaiting the next swarm or doubleteam or blindside flopper to know just what to do in any given situation. Way too tentative to succeed in such helter skelter surroundings.
u do realize yao's coming back from an injury right?
Yeah, but like I said, he's rarely been able to do much against the Suns under D'Antoni. A few solid games, maybe a good game or two, but in three years, the Suns own the Rockets and Yao probably averages around 12/15 ppg, 6/9 rpg...
Granted I only saw the first half, but I did not see the Suns take Yao out of the game. I keep hearing this from Suns fans. I don't watch all the Suns/Rockets matchups so I can't speak for the past. But last night in the first half I saw the offense running through Yao and running well through him. If he's not shooting it, he's making a good pass. He did have an off night scoring and his defense was a little late especially when Barbosa was laying it up (not all his fault). But he looked like he was in the flow of the game no problem. Even if he doesn't get the board, he's the reason why the Rockets rebound it. What I did see is that McGrady had a bad shooting night and the rest of the Rockets are not really that good. I'm still wondering why they made that trade for Battier. He's a good player, but a number 8 pick was way to much for him.
nice to see you only watched yesterdays game,if that, and nothing before that. he is the best decision maker on the rockets and top 5 in the league. he leads the team in assists.
I agree - that had no idea what he was talking about... T-Mac has completely carried the team this year and he's averaging a career high in assists to prove it.
And for that other dumb ripping on Battier, T-Mac is probably averaging that many assists because he can pass to good players like Shane Battier and not some worthless No. 8 pick from last year's weak draft.
Only a dumb ass would trade the #8 pick for Battier. (And Ron just proved to us that he is one) You do realize that it's a #8 pick right? Battier will never be an all-star while a #8 pick (I don't care how weak the draft is) has a damn good possibility of being one. Since you only think short-term you might want to find another sport to try to comment on. Next time keep your opinions to yourself and you won't sound like such an idiot.
Hmmm... All-Star or Olympian... which one would the intelligent person take? Oh, yeah - probably the future Olympic gold medalist.
that rookie would never get minutes from JVG and never develop and rockets want to win now while Yao and Tmac are still in their prime years instead of 3-4 years from now. battier is the perfect role player for the rockets only problem is he tends to disappear against the top teams of the league.
and dirties robbed me, thats fine thats your opinion but if you are counting any of the first games of the season its kind of off on grading T-mac because his back was killing him before he went to that doctor. now both are healthy again and expecting to do well in the playoffs.
If you think you have a chance to win this season and the next couple of seasons (which the Rockets should think with TMac & Yao) then trading a #8 pick for Battier is a no-brainer IMO. Plus, Battier is a great fit for that team.
Honestly how good do you guys think Battier is? He's a good defender, not a lock down defender. Good rebounder, not a great rebounder. Decent shooter. He does everything well and nothing great. He's an above average player IMO. Nothing great and not the difference maker between winning a Championship or not. The Rockets were not that close to winning the le were Battier is the difference. I feel the FO pushed the panic button way to early.
You also have to realize that when this trade was made there were also health questions. T-Mac has been injured the last couple of years. Why build around a Tracy McGrady with back issues. Luckily he's had his problems and now seems to be better. But the jury is still out on him, his back could flare up at anytime. Battier is not the missing piece for a Championship. And winning les is the only thing that matters.
Let's say you keep Gay or make a move with that pick. (Trading down and drafting a PG, trying to move up in the draft, etc.) There's many things that could have done. No you will not be a better team this year and maybe not a better team next year. But by that 3rd year that rookie could very likely be a very solid player. Maybe even a fringe all-star type of player. I would rather have that than an above average SF, that does nothing great. The Rockets are missing that third piece, and Battier is not it. They were not that close to the le; when they have glaring holes at PG, a defensive PF, and no bench.
No that's what you and the Rocket FO would take. Neither of them being intelligent people IMO.
rockets are building more around Yao than T-mac. battier is a candidate for the DPOY so not sure how you can say he is an average defender.
as for the rockets not being close to a championship... injuries killed the season last year and we will see who goes farther in playoffs this year, lakers or rockets.
also why wait 2-3 season to develop a rookie when you can have a veteran and have a better chance to win in those seasons instead of waiting and risking career ending injuries to T-mac/Yao
in the long run Rudy Gay will probably have a better career than Battier but rockets wanted to win now...
DPOY candidate, now that's a stretch. Don't get me wrong Battier is a good fit for any team. But DPOY candidate, that's heavy homerism. The days of 2 players winning a championship are over. And Tracy and Yao are not Shaq and Kobe. Even if they were healthy all year (which everybody in the world knew wouldn't happen) I still can't see them winning a le. I like them as spoilers, but nothing more. If you're happy with getting farther than the Lakers in the playoffs than you made a good trade. But if you wanna win Championships it was a stupid trade.
The fact is you can't win now. Unless you consider a second round/maybe third round (at best) exit winning. Maybe that's the difference between the Lakers and the rest of the league, we don't play to do well in the playoffs. We play to win the whole damn thing. And if we can't, we develop our team to win in the near future. That's why we didn't trade Bynum, when we could have had a whole host of players for him.
And the Rockets are not building around Yao. If they were they wouldn't have traded their lottery pick.
the lakers winning days are in the past.
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Well I'm glad your happy with your team and the moves they have made. Fact is you can't win this year. Why trade a lottery pick for somebody that wont put you over the top? It's a stupid move.
As for the Lakers the winning days are never in the past. You should have already learned that by now.
Nice job trying to call out the Rockets' front office when you should probably be looking at Mitch Kupchak and figuring out why he hasn't pulled a deal to get a quality point guard in there to help your team out. 33-31 is pathetic based on all the praise that was showered on the Lakers early in the season. You probably think Kobe is the most important player on your team, but it's actually Lamar Odom. You probably also think the Lakers should develop rookie like Jordan Farmar or a young guy like Andrew Bynum rather than pull a trade for a guy that could help them right now.
On I realized that the inept front office in LA is your guide, it made your terrible posts about the Rockets so easy to understand.
Keep thinking that..............laker's winning days left with shaq.
Shaq 1 ring post LA
Kobe 0 rings post shaq
Roxs have a good chance to do damage in the playoffs this yr...but the Suns look scarry to me......postseason will have some great games.
James Posey: 1 ring post Memphis
Pau Gasol: 0 rings post James Posey
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