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    Thanks. You're right about the first one. 50 games isn't nearly enough. Personally, I think we really need about 150 games to see who are the best teams. Hey, wait a minute. Don't all NBA teams (except the most putrid) make the playoffs anyway? Ok, nevermind my 150 games comment.

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    Thanks. You're right about the first one. 50 games isn't nearly enough. Personally, I think we really need about 150 games to see who are the best teams. Hey, wait a minute. Don't all NBA teams (except the most putrid) make the playoffs anyway? Ok, nevermind my 150 games comment.

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    let it all out...being swept by two eastern conference teams sucks

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    i'd rather be on top of the division and the conference than hollinger's rankings but thanks for playing!
    are you kidding? Hollinger's rankings are a big indicator which team is the best in the league. Not the number of wins.

    Actually I'm glad you guys are on top, and secured. Because it would have been a lot more worrisome for both of us, if our teams were neck and neck. As long as we get the 2nd or 3rd seed. I'm happy.

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    let it all out...being swept by two eastern conference teams sucks

    What really sucks is being up 2-0 on an Eastern Conf team in the finals and then getting swept.

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    are you kidding? Hollinger's rankings are a big indicator which team is the best in the league. Not the number of wins.

    Actually I'm glad you guys are on top, and secured. Because it would have been a lot more worrisome for both of us, if our teams were neck and neck. As long as we get the 2nd or 3rd seed. I'm happy.
    about the hollinger rankings comment...oh-kay

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    What really sucks is being up 2-0 on an Eastern Conf team in the finals and then getting swept.
    Woah, hey, bringin up the Finals....didn't see THAT one comin' from a Spurs fan either!

    Why not go for the hat trick? You dropped "three rings", now "choked in the finals", so let's wrap things up with a nice generic Hasselhoff reference, or maybe something about exercise bikes?

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    Woah, hey, bringin up the Finals....didn't see THAT one comin' from a Spurs fan either!

    Why not go for the hat trick? You dropped "three rings", now "choked in the finals", so let's wrap things up with a nice generic Hasselhoff reference, or maybe something about exercise bikes?


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    wow, that hair is atrocious

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    about the hollinger rankings comment...oh-kay
    you think I'm joking?

    It's statistics!

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    Woah, hey, bringin up the Finals....didn't see THAT one comin' from a Spurs fan either!

    Why not go for the hat trick? You dropped "three rings", now "choked in the finals", so let's wrap things up with a nice generic Hasselhoff reference, or maybe something about exercise bikes?

    Ok. HAT TRICK!!!


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    you guys cant say the absence of george and buckner is anything close to the absence of billups and hunter, no way



    but a win is a win

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    you guys cant say the absence of george and buckner is anything close to the absence of billups and hunter, no way



    but a win is a win
    Well, Billups does more scoring but the point was defense. Having those guys to play some D would have been nice. I really don't understand anyone using the excuse that the Pistons didn't have Billups hurt them so much...Flip Murray scored 18 and Billups averages 17. What did he not give them that Billups would have? Plus, Murray had quite a few steals. I'm just saying, Murray filled in nicely. I'm not comparing the different players being out. Only stating that Murray gave as much as far as scoring and defense as Billups gives on average.

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    Well, Billups does more scoring but the point was defense. Having those guys to play some D would have been nice. I really don't understand anyone using the excuse that the Pistons didn't have Billups hurt them so much...Flip Murray scored 18 and Billups averages 17. What did he not give them that Billups would have? Plus, Murray had quite a few steals. I'm just saying, Murray filled in nicely. I'm not comparing the different players being out. Only stating that Murray gave as much as far as scoring and defense as Billups gives on average.

    that's a fair assessment for sure


    but if billups was to get 17, and even if murray was to get only 8 points off the bench, that extra bench production could've made a huge difference in such a close game. Murray stepping up was nice, but then who is there to carry the load in the 2nd unit for the pistons?

    and on another quick note, i wish the playoffs wouldn't start for another 4 months if only because the spurs are so ridiculously far from being ready

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    note to self: be nice to ronmexico every once in awhile
    If you have any cute, single friends in Austin... I might be there in a few weeks, so feel free to send them my way

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    If you have any cute, single friends in Austin... I might be there in a few weeks, so feel free to send them my way

    (the ones that don't mind herpes, of course)
    or suns fans

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    That's true - we embrace herpes... except we call it "getting blown out on consecutive nights after beating Dallas"

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    that's a fair assessment for sure


    but if billups was to get 17, and even if murray was to get only 8 points off the bench, that extra bench production could've made a huge difference in such a close game. Murray stepping up was nice, but then who is there to carry the load in the 2nd unit for the pistons?
    Good point also.

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    Back to the subject at hand

    If he puts more height in margin of victory (.16 differeance between Mavs/Spurs), then why even have the other stats. I would think that a close win against a very good team would be worth more then a blow-out of a weak team.

    I mean the Mavs are up on strength of schedule and W/L. To the layman, that would tend to put them on top. Personally, I would factor in who the team lost too ... If they only loose to the better teams, and don't loose to "lesser teams" that should go in their favor as well.

    I don't know, I was just wondering if anyone can actually figure his system out and explane it, because it just doesn't seem right the way that it is shown (With the Mavs leading in every catogory except one, and its very close, but being ranked second.)

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    Wow, just noticed that the Spurs rating increase after the loss to the Celtics .... Wow

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    I may be wrong, but I think the difference might be that the Spurs have had more road games. That effect should be negated after this slew of road games for the Mavs.

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    I may be wrong, but I think the difference might be that the Spurs have had more road games. That effect should be negated after this slew of road games for the Mavs.
    They have played more road games then the Mavs, but in the extra games they are 1-4. That should actually work against them.

    I think that I am just going to have to think that Hollinger REALLY likes the Spurs ... I mean, their rating goes up after a home loss to the Celtics?

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    They have played more road games then the Mavs, but in the extra games they are 1-4. That should actually work against them.

    I think that I am just going to have to think that Hollinger REALLY likes the Spurs ... I mean, their rating goes up after a home loss to the Celtics?

    I hate to be the one to give up the secret but.....


    John Hollinger is actually the poster known as SpursDynasty


    That should clear some things up

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    Well, Billups does more scoring but the point was defense. Having those guys to play some D would have been nice. I really don't understand anyone using the excuse that the Pistons didn't have Billups hurt them so much...Flip Murray scored 18 and Billups averages 17. What did he not give them that Billups would have? Plus, Murray had quite a few steals. I'm just saying, Murray filled in nicely. I'm not comparing the different players being out. Only stating that Murray gave as much as far as scoring and defense as Billups gives on average.
    Billups is a pretty good defender as well (at least on a person w/ normal foot speed), plus he's a wayyyyy more productive playmaker than Murray. It ain't all about the points.

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