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  1. #26
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Kobe is the MVP.

    No one is better (period), no one makes his teammates better (except Steve), no one is as dominate (period).

    Im sorry. If MVP still means Most Valuable Player, then Kobe is the very definition.

    I dont even like the guy, or the team. This isnt the proper argument, Im sure, but put Dirk on LA, or Steve Nash on LA....

    Yeah, exactly. Kind of funny to think about what that team would be.

  2. #27
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    Kobe makes his teamates better? since when.

    Duncan, , Manu Ginobili makes his teamates better than Kobe

  3. #28
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Well, have Nash or Dirk take 44 shots a game and we'll see them put up similar numbers. What those two do that Kobe doesn't is make their supporting cast into a solid team. You'd think Odom or Walton would be a bit better with Kobe around them, but they're not because he re s any chance of a teammate stepping up their game.

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    Dallas can beat more than 50% of the teams in NBA without Dirk in a 7 game series, no doubt. Suns will lose to _every_ team in the NBA in 7 game series without Nash.

    How the heck can people consider Dirk the MVP. How is he the "most" valuable to his team?
    The MVP award goes to the league's most valuable player, not the player whose team needs him the most.

    The league's most valuable player should almost always be the best player on the team with the best record, as, in relation to the league as a whole, that guy is the most valuable.

  5. #30
    9mm nkdlunch's Avatar
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    The MVP award goes to the league's most valuable player, not the player whose team needs him the most.

    The league's most valuable player should almost always be the best player on the team with the best record, as, in relation to the league as a whole, that guy is the most valuable.
    says you.

    the league has never defined MVP on purpose. So they don't have to give any explanations when they pick someone.

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    says you.

    the league has never defined MVP on purpose. So they don't have to give any explanations when they pick someone.
    No, says the fact that it's the "NBA League MVP Award".

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    No, says the fact that it's the "NBA League MVP Award".
    huh?

  8. #33
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    Kobe

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    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    Kobe, or Nash after him

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    You two want to take bets on this? No way Kobe wins MVP this year.

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    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    You two want to take bets on this? No way Kobe wins MVP this year.
    Maybe he wont, but that doesnt mean he wont have been deserving of it. Kobe is the most valuable player to his team, without him, that team is one of the worst in the league

  12. #37
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    Maybe he wont, but that doesnt mean he wont have been deserving of it. Kobe is the most valuable player to his team, without him, that team is one of the worst in the league
    but they barely crack 0.500 at 39-35...so is he also responsible for those 35 losses? after all, he did play in those games as well.

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    Believe.
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    Uh...who really cares, anyway?

  14. #39
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Maybe he wont, but that doesnt mean he wont have been deserving of it. Kobe is the most valuable player to his team, without him, that team is one of the worst in the league
    I deserve to win the lottery, too. But it's not going to happen.

    By your logic, then Bosh, Tracy McGrady and Shaq need to be seriously considered in the argument. Those that are actually voting for the award don't use that silly notion, though, so there aren't any worries.

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    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    I deserve to win the lottery, too. But it's not going to happen.

    By your logic, then Bosh, Tracy McGrady and Shaq need to be seriously considered in the argument. Those that are actually voting for the award don't use that silly notion, though, so there aren't any worries.
    You dont deserve . Out of those three, yea, Bosh could be argued as well.
    The other two have all-stars on their team, just like Dirk, Nash and Duncan. Who does Kobe have?

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    You dont deserve . Out of those three, yea, Bosh could be argued as well.
    The other two have all-stars on their team, just like Dirk, Nash and Duncan. Who does Kobe have?
    the ZEN master with more rings than any other coach coaching in the NBA right now!!!!

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    I deserve to win the lottery, too. But it's not going to happen.

    By your logic, then Bosh, Tracy McGrady and Shaq need to be seriously considered in the argument. Those that are actually voting for the award don't use that silly notion, though, so there aren't any worries.


    I beg to differ, I deserve to win the lottery more than you.

  18. #43
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    Dallas can beat more than 50% of the teams in NBA without Dirk in a 7 game series, no doubt. Suns will lose to _every_ team in the NBA in 7 game series without Nash.

    How the heck can people consider Dirk the MVP. How is he the "most" valuable to his team?
    Gee, on this basis LeBron is more valuable than either, then.

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    Why do people still not get it????
    It's NBA M V P, not team MVP!!!! The 'value' of the league has been, is, and will be measured in wins, not how good you look. No way in someone wins an MVP with a .500 record, get it. And drop the whole "if X missed this many games, if X went to Y's team". The teams are build around specific players, Dirk and Nash are succesful in their situation, just as Jordan became unstopabble in the triangle offense with Pippen next to him. And those guys are keys to their system. Dirk has led one of the most impressive regular season teams in years, therefore he has been the most valuble player in the league. Wilt didn't get MVP when he averaged 50 in a season, MJ didn't get it when he average 37 with 50+ fg%. Why? Their teams were not good enough. In a season when the Mavs will end up winning 68-69 games, nobody but their lone 'all star' (howard was a second addition) should be mentioned for MVP. CASE CLOSED MORONS!!!!

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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    I love it when Mav Fan gives lectures on what the NBA is all about.

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    I love it when Mav Fan gives lectures on what the NBA is all about.
    no you don't spur fan

  22. #47
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    I see no blue italics in my post.

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    Veteran endrity's Avatar
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    I love it when Spurs fans listen

  24. #49
    The Greatest Show on Earth LakeShow's Avatar
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    Why do people still not get it????
    It's NBA M V P, not team MVP!!!! The 'value' of the league has been, is, and will be measured in wins, not how good you look. No way in someone wins an MVP with a .500 record, get it. And drop the whole "if X missed this many games, if X went to Y's team". The teams are build around specific players, Dirk and Nash are succesful in their situation, just as Jordan became unstopabble in the triangle offense with Pippen next to him. And those guys are keys to their system. Dirk has led one of the most impressive regular season teams in years, therefore he has been the most valuble player in the league. Wilt didn't get MVP when he averaged 50 in a season, MJ didn't get it when he average 37 with 50+ fg%. Why? Their teams were not good enough. In a season when the Mavs will end up winning 68-69 games, nobody but their lone 'all star' (howard was a second addition) should be mentioned for MVP. CASE CLOSED MORONS!!!!
    Michael Jordan didn't win in 1986-87 because Magic Johnson, who already had lead his team to 3 NBA les was having his finest season as a Laker. His team also had the second best regular season record in Lakers History. 65-17 Magic was MVP of the finals as well.

    The NBA has given the award to players other than the best player on the best team before. Why not do it again. Kobe is clearly the definition of Most Valuable Player!

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    KOBE mvp ????

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