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they also don't have an O-Line. and if ur putting boldin/fitzgerald on the level of bruce/holt you're ing insane.
you're not winning with marc bulger. bottom line.
Yeah that Bulger guy who was in the top 5 QBs least aount of INts thrown
they also don't have an O-Line. and if ur putting boldin/fitzgerald on the level of bruce/holt you're ing insane.
you're not winning with marc bulger. bottom line.
david carr didn't throw too many INT's last year either. you want him as your QB?
marc bulger can put up all the pretty looking numbers he wants and go to all the Pro Bowls in the world, his team hasn't won with him at QB and they never will. The guy's not a leader or a winner. I'd take about 15 or 20 QB's over Bulger.
look at his numbers in Rams wins, and then in Rams losses. it's pretty clear that when they give it to Jackson, they win, and when they put the game in Bulger's hands, they lose.
i would bet my life savings that the Rams dont' make the playoffs this year. 7-9 at best.
Bottom line is that Bulger is an accurate QB who won't through it up for grabs. They have good O-tackles in Orlando Pace and Alex Barron, it's just the interior. They have good potential as well. Oh yeah bud, if your serious about your life savings, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands.
Wrong again. The only game were he had under 18 carries in a loss was against the Panthers, other than that, he had over 18 carries in every game, and that doesnt include his receptions in those games, wich were very high. If they gave him the ball much more than they do, his career wouldnt last very long. Your starting to make me think that you dont watch any football with your bashing of Bulger and claim that Jackson didnt get the ball enough.
way to spin the numbers...
Jackson's attempts when the Rams win - 22,24,22,23,23,31,33,25
Jackson's attempts when the Rams lose - 22,20,18,19,18,7,21,18
Bulger's pass attempts when the Rams win - 34,31,42,28,34,22,38,30
Bulger's pass attempts when the Rams lose - 34,39,40,42,40,34,45,55
if you can't see the obvious discrepancies in there, you're ing blind. more carries for Jackson + less passes by Bulger generally = Rams win. the other way around is almost always a loss.
why don't you tell me what Bulger has accomplished in the NFL that makes you think he's so ing great? His stellar playoff history? for all those pretty ass regular season numbers, he hasn't exactly torn it up in the playoffs in the few times he's actually gotten there.
Do you know why this is little boy? It's because when the Rams don't hand it off, It's pretty easy to step back and defend the pass because you know whats gonna happen. Once again, he was in the top five in the league in least amount of interceptions. Bottom line for the eight time, he has to be good if the D knows he's gonna pass and still can't pick it off. Also, I'm serious about the life savings.
How about this then, Jacksons total touches in those losses
24, 27, 21, 32, 24, 14, 30, 28, a lot of ing touches. Regardless of what you think about Bulger, they cant give the ball to Jackson 30 times every game with no backup, he wouldnt last the season. I think your looking past his 90 receptions last year, guy almost had 1000 yards recieving, I dont see how you dont understand that you cant just give the ball 30 to 40 times a game to one back. He was 3rd in the league in carries, how do you not understand that there wasnt much more the guy could do?
And as far as you Bulger question, why dont you tell me what he hasnt done?
Guy was top 10 in qb rating,percentage, ypa, top 5 in tds, yards, and in least amout of ints thrown. Again, how much better do you want him to play? Maybe if he hadnt gotten sacked second most times in the league (49), he could have put up even better numbers than the great numbers he already put up. And you realize that their are things called matchups right? You really think the Rams would run the ball as much against Chicago, SanDiego, Carolina and Seattle as they would against say, Oakland or Washington. Matchups are better passing against those teams.
And by the way, he is 1 and 1 in his playoff games with a 99 qb rating, 4 to 2 tds to ints, and over 600 yards, pretty good playoff stats. If the Rams could get a line and keep him from getting sacked, his numbers would be even better.
. That's what he hasn't done.
been to the playoffs twice with a 1-2 record. also had his fair share of .500 or less seasons. what's the point of having such a great TD-to-INT ratio when you can't LEAD YOUR TEAM TO VICTORY more than 8 times a year?
plus, he's a product of the Mike Martz system, which is a ridiculously flawed offensive system comparable to what Don Nelson does in basketball. Sure, it won a Super Bowl, but with one of top 5 greatest RB's ever. I'm sure Don Nelson could have won a le with Michael Jordan.
you forgot his first playoff game vs. carolina where he threw 0 TD's and 3 INT's. look it up.
Well they didnt run Martz sytem last year, so thats out. Second, that Panthers game was against a team that got to the SB and almost won, and Bulger was in his first year starting, pretty much a rookie, and not many teams do well against a great defense when you have to throw the ball damn near 50 times, and you dont have a productive back, only reason they got in the playoffs that year was Bulger. But , I already thought your football views were jaded after I heard you say that the Raiders tanked last year.
I hate to say it, but this is a SPurdynasty argument similair to the Dwight Howard one. You cant giive me one actually good reason why he sucks even though the stats, NFL GM's and players say otherwise. If you think he sucks personally , thats fine, but dont act like dedicated NFL fans are going to agree with you. Yea, he hasnt led his team all the way, he has only been to the playoffs twice, and the first time was hoplessly outmatched. You really have no other offering to show me why he sucks.
Last edited by mardigan; 04-13-2007 at 12:38 PM.
I've heard plenty of GM's say he is the most accurate QB they have ever seen!!! Thats pretty good for someone who sucks.
Its also pretty good for a former 6th round pick who's team was 4th in the league in passing offense. And Mono, I will give you that the Rams need to run the ball more, they were around 22nd in the league in rushing attempts last year. But until they get another back who can take carries off of Jackson, they will still have to throw it quite a bit.
I hear there looking at Chris Henry out of Arizona in RD 4 to be his backup.
The curse of vermiel is still haunting the rams today!!
Is there any other game where intangibles play a bigger role than in football? Why is the all-mysterious "it" such a huge factor in football? Tom Brady has "it", Peyton Manning has "it", Vince Young has "it". And Marc Bulger doesn't. Again, I show that he rarely makes the playoffs, and when there, he has a losing record.....and you want MORE proof than that?
Like I said before, pretty numbers don't mean in football. Larry Johnson can rack up all the 150+ yard games he wants to, I'd still take about 15 other RB's before I take him. Why? Because other RB's are gonna get me the yards when it MATTERS. Same with Bulger. I don't trust for one second that Bulger is gonna make the perfect throw when it matters.
In pure ability to throw a football, Marc Bulger probably more talented than Brady. But one guy's got three rings and the other one doesn't. And throw the "bill belichick" bull out the window...Brady's still the one running the two minute drill at the end of the Super Bowl. One guy's leading his team to the AFC Championship game even though his offense is vastly inferior and his defense is old and slow, and the other guy is sitting at home with a HOF WR on side, a Top-5 receiver on the other, and a Pro Bowl RB lining up behind him as his team goes 8-8.
Bulger's not a winner, plain and simple. And Martz isn't the head coach, but if you don't think that pass-happy offense isn't still using the Martz philosophies, you're the one that's lacking in football a en.
So take all your stats and arm strength and accuracy and shove em all up your ass. If winning is the bottom line, Bulger doesn't match up to the top QB's in the league by a LONG SHOT.
I'd take MArc bulger, but that;'s because I have no QB for my team right now. And hopw exactly would Larry Johnson not get the yards when it matters?
His line is old, but he's the second guy after LT that I'd want in crunch time.
First of all you dont have to start with the shove it up your ass stuff just because your wrong. Second of all, if your really trying to tell me that the Pats defense isnt as good as the Rams, you dont know anything about football. Thirdly, you say throw all of the Bellichek stuff out the window, but not the Martz. So its okay to be a product of the system when it helps your argument. And fourth, LJ had more fourth quarter rushing yards then LT, Gore, and Stephen Jackson,and Tiki Barber, with more 4th quarter tds than any of those guys except LT. Another sign that you dont know about the NFL, just like to say things without any information for your argument.
HAHA! Worst argument ever! Bulger has only been a starter for 4 years, and last year he only played half of the season. And before this season Peyton had a 3 and 6 record, I guess you thought he sucked to before the year. I dont know why you dont understand that them not getting into the playoffs isnt just Bulgers fault.
What did LJ do in the playoffs? Again, he can get all the in' yards in the world, but if I need one play, just one play where failure is not an option, there's 15 other backs i'll take before Larry Johnson. For all those Dynasty signs he throws up, he's never done it when his team really needs it.
What did Marc Bulger do in the playoffs? Oh yeah, he wasn't in them.
And Bulger never transcended his place as a system QB. Brady has.
And never did I say that the Patriots defense was worse than the Rams. I just said that the defense is old and slow, right? Or did you not even in read it? Where in the did I EVER say the Rams defense was better?
Learn to ing read. I post in other NFL forums so I rarely do it here, but don't go around in dissing my NFL knowlege right off the bat. I'll ing take this board over if you're gonna go talking that kind of . If you seriously think the Raiders didn't just give it up last season and not even put forth an effort, and now you're trying to convince me that Marc Bulger is a top QB? This NFL Forum is going to be so easy to take over if this is the weak ass that goes on.
Last edited by monosylab1k; 04-14-2007 at 05:10 PM.
Name one "great" QB that misses the playoffs consistently? Every great QB may have an aberration season here or there, but the vast majority consistently take their teams to the playoffs over and over.
Seriously, who the is gonna stick up for Marc ing Bulger this much? A dude that hasn't done jack ing ever and is now a 30 year old middle of the road QB who is in a system that allows him to throw for loads of yards, not to mention the fact that he's got Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt to throw to.
Last edited by monosylab1k; 04-14-2007 at 05:14 PM.
Seriously, fantasy football has ed people's minds up when it comes to football. Now a guy that leads his team to an 8-8 record IN THE NFC becomes a great player simply cuz he throws for 4300 worthless ass yards.
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