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    I like typing it myself though.

    Thanks anyway.

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    There's a qualitative difference between Duncan, Dirk and the kind of treatment Wade gets. Duncan and Dirk are both post players adept at drawing contact. A 6-6 2 guard shouldn't be getting 25 FTAs per game. That's just inconceivable in a fairly-called game. But don't take my word for it. Plenty of people outside of Detroit and Dallas called it the same:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/060620



    Speaking of the refs, Game 5 of the Finals took its rightful place alongside Game 7 of the Seattle-Phoenix series in 1993, Game 6 of the Kings-Lakers series in 2002, Game 5 of the Knicks-Celtics series in 1973 and some of the other famous entries in the Pantheon of One-Sided Officiated Games. We're running some e-mails in a sidebar (look to the right), but you know it's bad when the owner of the losing team runs out onto the floor to stare down the commissioner after the game -- the last time that happened at a sporting event, Vince McMahon was involved.

    First, Dwyane Wade shot as many free throws (25) as the entire Dallas team in Game 5. I just don't see how there's any way this can happen in a fairly-called game. It's theoretically impossible.

    Second, everyone knew the officiating would be a problem heading into this series because of Cuban's past problems with the league. In my Finals preview, I wrote that "No team depends on the refs quite like the Heat. When the refs are calling all the bumps on Shaq and protecting Wade on every drive, they're unstoppable. When they're calling everything fairly, they're eminently beatable. If they're not getting any calls, they're just about hopeless. I could see the refs swinging two games in Miami's favor during this series, possibly three. In fact, I'm already depressed about it and the series hasn't even started yet." Well, we had our two games -- Game 3 (the last five minutes were just obscene) and Game 5 (again, a top-five debacle). And the series isn't over yet.


    "I don't think I can take much more of NBA refs insisting on controlling the outcomes of the most significant games. The NBA is a disgrace and should be completely embarrassed. I hate this game."

    And that's coming from one of the last 19 NBA diehards -- I can only imagine what the casual fans thought after watching such a one-sided travesty. Look, we all love Dwyane Wade. He's fantastic. But there's absolutely no scenario in which a 2-guard should be attempting as many free throws as everyone on the other team. It's absolutely unfathomable. And here's what really kills me: If there's a Game 7, you KNOW they'll come up with the best possible officials for that particular game.


    I do solemnly swear, this 19th day of June, 2006 that I will never watch an NBA game again. Everyone is supposed to say what a great game that was with a straight face? At least the WWE has the grace to give you a wink. If watching a man in a flak jacket and thigh pads repeatedly throw himself into defenders to draw foul calls is what passes for "compe ion," or better yet watching said man hit layups because no one can breathe on him, I believe I can live without [it]. Why would anyone follow a "sport" that employs Bavetta and Stu Jackson? All that was missing was David Stern running onto the court with a steel chair, ABC execs in tow. Bill Simmons, I name thee prophet. It went down exactly as you said it would.
    -- James, Richmond, Virginia

    Twenty-five free-throw attempts is nonsense, not even MJ would have gotten some of those foul calls. And I'm not just saying this because I'm a bitter Pistons fan. Sixty-year-old officials should not be officiating 20-something-year-old professional athletes.
    -- Paul, Detroit, Mich.

    Have you ever, I mean EVER, seen a guy get more calls than Wade in Game 5? As staggering as it is to even think it, much less say it out loud, this surpasses the level of calls Jordan used to get in the playoffs. Simply AMAZING. I am a die-hard NBA fan, and I understand and accept the whole "stars get calls" factor, but this is an insane new level. Every time Wade falls down (even if not touched) he gets a call. You called it in your preview, the refs were gonna give some games to Miami, and they did.
    -- Jonathan, Raleigh, N.C.

    Please admit to everyone that the treatment Dwyane Wade is receiving is absolutely absurd. The final play in Game 5 summed it up: He commits a backcourt violation, pushes off on Terry, then goes wildly to the bucket and gets bailed out on a phantom foul call. Is what the NBA has to do to create its star of the future?
    -- Mark, Chicago

    I watch very little NBA basketball; however, as the playoffs have been playing out, I have found myself watching more and more games, becoming more interested. Then comes the Finals and I feel like I am watching pro wrestling, except I can fool myself into thinking those matches aren't fixed. At least it makes the NBA the easiest sport to gamble on.
    -- Jeremy Louden, Cincinnati

    I want to say something about Dwayne Wade, but I fear I may get called for a foul.
    -- Warren, Ludington, Mich.

    Unfortunately you were right that the NBA finals could come down to the officials. David Stern would rather choke to death on his own vomit than hand Mark Cuban the trophy. It's clear he instructed the refs to take an active interest in the outcomes of the games. Every time Wade drives the lane the refs call a foul on whoever is closest.
    -- Jeff, Baltimore

    After witnessing the Game 5 debacle, I am absolutely convinced that Stern is trying to fix the Finals for D-Wade and the Heat. Stackhouse's suspension, Dirk's phantom foul in OT, and then Joey Crawford's inexplicable call for a Mavs timeout -- it all adds up too perfectly. This could be a conspiracy as far-reaching as Watergate. I can already imagine the inevitable ESPN movie, "All The Commissioner's Men," where a stubborn, upstart young sports columnist brings down Stern and the entire NBA hierarchy. So, Simmons, the only question is: Will you be our Bob Woodward?
    -- Robert P., Topeka, Kan.

    All the comparisons between Wade and Jordan need to stop right now. There's no way Jordan would have gotten that call in the final seconds of Game 5.
    -- Chris Richardson, Charleston, W.V.

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    Mono - how was the game?
    It was great! Thanks again...it was nice to see Dirk get back on track. Haha I got to see the last meaningful regular season game of the year.

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    There's a qualitative difference between Duncan, Dirk and the kind of treatment Wade gets. Duncan and Dirk are both post players adept at drawing contact. A 6-6 2 guard shouldn't be getting 25 FTAs per game. That's just inconceivable in a fairly-called game. But don't take my word for it. Plenty of people outside of Detroit and Dallas called it the same:
    Eh, I still don't think Dirk is a post player but whatever...

    I will give you that. A guard shooting that many ft's is absolutely ridiculous, and personally, I think refs should back off from last second foul calls. Don't let the game be decided by ft's.

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    Eh, I still don't think Dirk is a post player but whatever...

    I will give you that. A guard shooting that many ft's is absolutely ridiculous, and personally, I think refs should back off from last second foul calls. Don't let the game be decided by ft's.
    I won't bring up the officiating as long as non-Mavs fans don't call us chokers. Nobody remembers Game Six of Kings-Lakers, all they remember is that the Lakers won that series.

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    Mavs clinched the #1 seed but it doesn't matter. They suck. (Insert here) will beat them in the playoffs when Dirk and the gang chokes.
    Wow, maybe some Mavs fans ARE smart.

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    And Dallas fans, please stop with the complaints about officiating. The best team always wins a Finals, and if the refs wanted to make a team lose, they would have made the Heat lose so the NBA media champion Mavericks would win.

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    And Dallas fans, please stop with the complaints about officiating. The best team always wins a Finals, and if the refs wanted to make a team lose, they would have made the Heat lose so the NBA media champion Mavericks would win.
    I'll lay off about the officiating when people stop calling the Mavs chokers. If it's fair to question Dirk's intestinal for ude, then it's fair to question the way those games were called.

    I'm not saying the games were rigged, I'm saying they were called to ensure the series was compe ive and to make Wade the next "Jordan." Clevleland's a flawed team that has no business making it past the second round, but if they do make the Finals, they'll be a threat to beat Dal/Sas/Phx because Bron-Bron will get the same kind of treatment as D-Pussy,

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    the NBA media champion Mavericks
    they'll never wrestle that le away from Phoenix.

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    I won't bring up the officiating as long as non-Mavs fans don't call us chokers. Nobody remembers Game Six of Kings-Lakers, all they remember is that the Lakers won that series.
    Everybody remembers Game 6 of Kings-Lakers.

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    Everybody remembers Game 6 of Kings-Lakers.
    Well, Game Five of the Finals was just as egregious. Why did Wade lash out at Dirk a couple of months ago when Dirk didn't even say about him? It's because D-Pussy hears the criticism and deep down knows its true, and he's sensitive about it.

    I want them to come out of the East and I want another shot at them, so long as Bennett Salvatore and Joey Crawford don't get the assignment.

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    NOOB!!

    I respect the Mavs. They have proven over the course of the entire season thay they are the team to beat and will be incredibly hard to beat in the playoffs and terribly hard to win against now that they have home court advantage. For anybody to beat them, they will face one of the best teams I've ever seen. Then again, I've only been around since 6 years before the Spurs won it all for the first (and not the last) time. I really am hoping for the Spurs to meet the Mavs in the Western Conference Finals. That will be better, and Im saying it now, than the 05 semis. I know the Spurs have gotten criticism for losing to lottery bound teams like the Bucks, Celtics, and way early in the season, the Bobcats. but I say be thankful that we have sucha big three like Tim Tony and Manu. Really I dont understand why some people hate on them. Any other team would be glad to have them on their team. Beno I know has been a lot from his rookie season, in I think 05', but he played well as a rookie, and I thought at the time that we had a great prospect backing up Tony. Nowadays,i only see flashes of the Beno, but I know its in him somewhere. I sound like such a right now.

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    I sound like such a right now.
    At least you got one thing right.

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    only kidding, welcome to the board.

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    At least you got one thing right.
    Ah, come on, dude is being respectful and classy.


    -- nevermind, see the additional post.

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    Wade lashed out at Dirk because Dirk opened his mouth first saying that Dallas gave them the championship.

    I don't know of any player that would stay silent after hearing that about his team.

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    Wade lashed out at Dirk because Dirk opened his mouth first saying that Dallas gave them the championship.

    I don't know of any player that would stay silent after hearing that about his team.
    That's not at all what Dirk said -- some sort of standard boilerplate about how they didn't play their best, if they had played their best, they would've won, blahdy blah ing blah. Wade, being the supersensitive crybaby that he is, choose to interpret it as a slam. It says far more about Wade than it does Dirk.

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    The Mavs suck.

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    Ah, come on, dude is being respectful and classy.


    -- nevermind, see the additional post.

    if you're talking about my sig, yes, that was a bit fruity...

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    Congratulations to the Mavs, but some of you Mavs fans here are really stupid.

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    Wow...good thread

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