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Udrih,Horry(retires),Butler and maybe Oberto are gonna be gone next year.
My point was to suggest that none of the Spurs on the current roster at SG and SF are entering FA this off-season, so it's unlikely that White gets a significant increase in minutes....unless Pop wants to reduce Bowen's time on the court and cut into the SG rotation with Fin/Barry.
Udrih,Horry(retires),Butler and maybe Oberto are gonna be gone next year.
Butler isn't going anywhere.
I ing hope not. We havent had a young power forward with post moves since Tim was drafted
What makes you think Nocioni would sign a contract of only 3 mill. To me Nocioni has much more value and will command a bigger contract than Pietrus. Also you mentioned about a 2 mill. gap in a S&T, what about Biedrins, it sounds as if harrington has made him a moveable commidity.
About Nocioni, I think the Spurs would be comfortable offering him a $6 or 7M per year deal and trading Barry for him straight out....I do think he's worth more than $3M.
No way Golden State moves Pietrus AND Biedrins unless they get back a of a prospect plus Barry. Biedrins' value may have been lessened by Nelly's wacky move of Harrington to Center, but he's still an incredible young F/C prospect....a potential future all-star.
O'Bryant might be the "gap" guy in that deal, but that's still alot to give up for a 36yr old swingman in the last year of his deal.....
Barry and Scola rights for Pietrus and Biedrens.....IT would work financially, but realistically, hmmm probably not.
Yea, they aint giving up Biedrins, that guy is awesome
The Warriors' run to a playoff berth has coincided with Al Harrington being moved to center, the role coach Don Nelson previously envisioned for Troy Murphy. Odd man out is Andris Biedrins.
-- Chicago Tribune
wait, Horry is retiring for sure? i thought he was gonna wait until the summer to decide
Unless we can trade or buyout, all three will be here. Horry said he wants to play two more years. Hopefully not with the Spurs.
He may play two more years, but with a salary at $4M, it won't be with the Spurs...they'll cut him if he doesn't retire.
Odd man out for now...he'll still get alot of minutes at Center because the Warriors don't have any options outside of him. Biedrins is actually very athletic and mobile...if he's the "odd man out" because of his size, then I wonder what they're going to do with Patrick O'Bryant or Adonal Foyle...
Biedrins stat line:
9.9PPG and 9.5RPG on over 60% shooting in under 30MPG...guy is a beast, and is only 21 years old.
Everyone should stay, this is tghe greatest team of all time, morons.
I am unclear about how it works if someone is cut or bought out. Does the team have to pay the entire contract to player? Does the salary count against the salary cap?
If Horry goes somewhere else, he will be the only player in the history of the NBA to have a contract with a "playoff clause," which is to say that his contract will be ONLY effective for the playoffs, as that will be ONLY when he plays, and will be automatically voided if that team is not involved in the post-season.
In fact, Stern should make a single-player exception: Free agency for the entire league starts at the beginning of July, except for Horry when it starts the beginning of May.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfil...ham/index.html
Spurs' future Bowen.
When a player is cut, their salary is paid in full. When there is a buyout, that player accepts less money than he is owed for the opportunity to be released from his contract and play elsewhere. In terms of actual $$ the team saves, but the player's Salary Cap figure stays the same. The only thing I'm unclear on is whether Luxury Tax is assessed based on actual salaries paid out or on the Salary Cap figures of players on their books (even bought out ones)....
Stephen spent time with the Spurs before.
Undersized for his skill set. Didn't work before, won't work now.
I would like to get rid of Beno and Oberto.
Beno is on his way to Europe
Must interject on this one. Stevie is just plain not as good as Joey. Joey was the B12 POY and Stevie was the 6th man. He just doesn't have it all in his game. Joey can go inside and outside. Stevie can't. Stevie doesn't have an outside game, is loose with the ball, and doesn't have the explosion Joey has.
What Stevie does have is defensive ability. As a Sutton pupil, he picked up some great traits. He is quick, can stay in front of a big man, and body up. His skills lack, however, as he is prone to fouls and good first steps.
I love Stevie, but his skills do not warrant a spot on the bench IMO.
No player besides the big 3 are signed past '09. The only 2 others that are signed for the 08-09 season are Beno and Butler.
These are our contracts for next year:
Player 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09
Brent Barry $5,117,880 $5,554,370 $0
Bruce Bowen $3,750,000 $4,125,000 $0
Robert Horry $3,315,000 $3,630,000 $0
Melvin Ely $3,308,615 $0 $0
Francisco Elson $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $0
Michael Finley $2,889,000 $3,103,000 $0
Fabricio Oberto $2,500,000 $2,500,000 $0
Jackie Butler $2,200,000 $2,376,000 $2,552,000
Matt Bonner $2,000,000 $0 $0
Jacque Vaughn $1,071,225 $0 $0
Beno Udrih $967,920 $1,747,095 $2,603,172
James White $412,718 $427,163 $0 $0 $0
Bruce's contract is a team option. If he thinks he can still play, I see him restucturing for a 2-3 year deal at around 3-3.5 mil per.
Finley and Fab are player options
Butler has 2 years left
White is under contract for league min
Sisco is under contract
Beno's contract balloons almost a mil. This is one of the reasons we tried desperately to dump him THIS year.
You will be hard pressed to find someone to take Barry and Beno's contracts for next year. I would imagine we are stuck with them. They have been trying for 2 years to trade them and it hasn't happened - don't expect it to. Beno's bigger still contract for 08-09 is a death sentence.
Next year, barring trade, we will for certain have:
Tim/Tony/Manu
Barry
Sisco
Beno
Butler
White
Horry (unless he retires)
Finley and Fab (if they pick up player options)
Bruce (if team picks up his option)
That's 12 right there. Ely was a cap move. I don't see him coming back. I think they will actively try to resign Bonner and Vaughn.
His TWIN is working quite well now. Working his ass off, grabbing rebounds, defending well, etc. (since getting some playing time with Toronto).
As an alum, who watched dang near every game the 2 years the twins were at OSU, I can tell you plain and simple - their skill levels are not the same.
There is a reason one was the B12 POY and a 1st round draft pick and the other was a bench player who went undrafted.
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