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    Sheesh..if the league had a PLAYOFF MVP, Kobe would have won more than Shaq. Yes Shaq was awesome in the Finals...but Kobe took Shaq to the Finals.

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    Mavsfan1000....keep cracking buddy...you got owned that in the last volley of Kobe posts a few weeks back. It looks like you're back again.....have fun.

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    Kobe averaged more tha Shaq in 2 of the 3 championship runs. Nice rolleyes covering the fact that you arent very wise in this conversation

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    Mavsfan1000....keep cracking buddy...you got owned that in the last volley of Kobe posts a few weeks back. It looks like you're back again.....have fun.
    Shaq 60% from the field. Kobe 45% from the field. Shaq plays inside-out. Kobe plays outside-in. I wonder which style is more proven to be effective? Shaq>Kobe. Shaq even took a Penny Hardaway team to the finals. lol

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    Kobe averaged more tha Shaq in 2 of the 3 championship runs. Nice rolleyes covering the fact that you arent very wise in this conversation
    Oh yeah since everything is about point total smart guy.

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    Shortest ing thread in history.

    SHOULD be the shortest thread.

    Kobe has 3 rings. End of story.

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    Oh yeah since everything is about point total smart guy.
    Eveything is about shooting % according to you




    smart guy

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    I'm not going to argue that Shaq was not the main catalyst....look at the original post and it's claim. It's just Kobe is most complete player in the NBA today, regardless of position. Does he need help, of course...but he's the best player in the NBA.

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    Eveything is about shooting % according to you




    smart guy
    Oh yeah we should bring up rebounding, defense, and offensive flow. Shaq, Shaq, and Shaq.

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    Oh yeah we should bring up rebounding, defense, and offensive flow. Shaq, Shaq, and Shaq.
    Your right man, Shaq would have still won those 3 rings without Kobe.
    Im sure Penny Hardaway would agree with you as well

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    Oh yeah we should bring up rebounding, defense, and offensive flow. Shaq, Shaq, and Shaq.
    Yea, assists a game, steals per game and free throw %, Kobe, Kobe Kobe, so ing what

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    Your right man, Shaq would have still won those 3 rings without Kobe.
    Im sure Penny Hardaway would agree with you as well
    What's this crap? Take any of the starters off that lakers team and there is a possibility they don't win a championship. What a garbage reply.

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    you gotta be a damn fool to think that all Kobe did was piggyback his way to three les.

    I'm no Kobe fan, but without him those Lakers teams don't even sniff the Finals.

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    What's this crap? Take any of the starters off that lakers team and there is a possibility they don't win a championship. What a garbage reply.
    They survived losing Glen Rice fairly easily.

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    What's this crap? Take any of the starters off that lakers team and there is a possibility they don't win a championship. What a garbage reply.
    Its called sarcasm and how would you expect me to reply to garbage posts except with garbage posts.

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    Yeah and they gained Rick Fox and Devean George. Both solid defenders that could hit 3's. Take away Fisher though and the lakers probably don't win any championships.

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    Yea, assists a game, steals per game and free throw %, Kobe, Kobe Kobe, so ing what
    Rebounding, Defense, and Offensive flow is much more important than assists, free throw percentage, and steals.

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    Rebounding, Defense, and Offensive flow is much more important than assists, free throw percentage, and steals.
    aren't steals a part of defense?
    aren't assists a part of offensive flow?

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    Rebounding, Defense, and Offensive flow is much more important than assists, free throw percentage, and steals.
    Yet, out of the 3, the only one you can prove is rebounding. The rest are your opinion

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    Yeah and they gained Rick Fox and Devean George. Both solid defenders that could hit 3's. Take away Fisher though and the lakers probably don't win any championships.
    they had Fox and George for all 3 les, they never "gained" those two. And as great as Fisher was for them, his job could have been done by about 25 other backup level PG's in the league.

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    Rebounding, Defense, and Offensive flow is much more important than assists, free throw percentage, and steals.
    And Im sure that the almost 300 free throw shots he missed over the 3 year run didnt hurt the Lakers at all either

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    aren't steals a part of defense?
    aren't assists a part of offensive flow?
    I was talking about overall defense and overall offense. Many Shaq's passes come out of a double team which they rotate off the first shooter and than another pass which eventually becomes an assist. That happens alot with inside-out big men. In that case that doesn't as an assist for Shaq but he was a big reason someone else got open.

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    I was talking about overall defense and overall offense. Many Shaq's passes come out of a double team which they rotate off the first shooter and than another pass which eventually becomes an assist. That happens alot with inside-out big men.
    Thanks for breaking down the basics of basketball John Wooden. Kobe locked up the opponents best 2 guards during those runs, pretty important job I would think as well

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    Thanks for breaking down the basics of basketball John Wooden. Kobe locked up the opponents best 2 guards during those runs, pretty important job I would think as well
    Bowen 27 Kobe 24.

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    Ummmm....ok?

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