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  1. #26
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    If they don't trade Dirk for KG (which I doubt they will)... then we need to find another true superstar that is hungry to win, which leads me to T-Mac.

    Keep Stack, Diop, and George.

    Trade Howard, Terry, Mbenga, and draft picks for T-Mac and John Lucas.

    Sign Luke Walton, Desmon Mason, or Eddie Jones. Sign Jamaal Magliore. If possible, try to get Mike Bibby as well.

    PG - Bibby (maybe, but doubtful), Harris, Lucas
    SG - McGrady, Stackhouse, Ager
    SF - Walton/Mason/Jones, George
    PF - Nowitzki, Magliore
    C - Diop, Dampier

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    The Mavs need a KG or Duncan to win the BIG one. Crash the boards, play D and score high percentage points. Without that, then they can kiss their chances goodbye.

  3. #28
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    If I were Donnie...

    I'd resign Stack. He's a useful scorer off the bench and he's the only guy on our team right now with any cojones.

    I'd make Devin Harris the fulltime starter at PG. If it doesn't work out, we can always bite the bullet and trade for an Andre Miller or Jason Kidd at the trade deadline.

    I'd trade Terry to the Clippers for Corey Maggette. The Clippers do this deal because Cassell is 37 years old and can't play 40 minutes a night for 80 games, and Livingston is going to be out a long time. We do this deal because he gives us a real shooting guard that can go to the rim and draw fouls.

    I'd also sign Desmond Mason as a FA. He's a terrible jumpshooter, he can't shoot FTs either, but he can post up on the low blocks, he can defend perimeter guys as well. He gives us two things we desperately need: a two-way player unlike Damp or Diop, low-post scoring, and excellent defense. The Warriors didn't have to worry about guarding Buck or George. They'd have to pay attention to Mason anytime he's on the floor, and he'd do a good job on Nash, Parker, B-Diddy, etc.
    I must say, getting Mason and Maggette is actually very intriguing. As long as they stay healthy. If we could get those two, then it would really give us more money/trade bait to get someone like Mike Bibby, whom I think would fit in VERY well with our system. Plus I think we should sign Magliore as a backup PF/C. A lineup of...

    PG - Bibby, Harris
    SG - Maggette, Stack, Ager
    SF - Howard, Mason
    PF - Nowtizki, Magliore
    C - Diop, Damp

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    If you can't slam with the best then jam with the rest sabar's Avatar
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    Would the Mavs be interested in Scola? It'd give them a guy with post up moves plus the Spurs are already loaded at the PF position. Dirk can be shifted to different positions so they could both be out at the same time, much like how we use Horry/Duncan together.

    But of course, he's unproven. Scouting reports say he can post up and has a mid range jumper, but you never know how it'll look in the NBA.

  5. #30
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    or maybe as my brother suggests...

    trade Terry/Diop for Jermaine O'Neal.

    sign Bonzi Wells, Steve Blake, and Stackhouse.

    PG - Harris, Blake, Barea
    SG - Wells, Stackhouse, Ager
    SF - Howard, Buckner
    PF - Nowtizki, Mensa-Bonsu
    C - O'Neal, Damp, Mbenga

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    All this Dirk trade talk makes me have 1 question.

    How do you convince someone to actually TAKE Dirk after his performance in the post season? Unless someone gives up players for Dirk, I wouldn't see a lot of teams that would be interested.

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    All this Dirk trade talk makes me have 1 question.

    How do you convince someone to actually TAKE Dirk after his performance in the post season? Unless someone gives up players for Dirk, I wouldn't see a lot of teams that would be interested.
    They aren't trading Dirk but I guarantee you teams would line up to try to cut a deal for him. He's had plenty more good playoff series (3 really good game 7's and a good game 5 back when series went 5 games) than poor ones.

  8. #33
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    Some Mavs fans seems to forget that there are two teams (or more) in a trade. You can't trade crap for good players.

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    All this Dirk trade talk makes me have 1 question.

    How do you convince someone to actually TAKE Dirk after his performance in the post season? Unless someone gives up players for Dirk, I wouldn't see a lot of teams that would be interested.
    people will still take dirk believe me. I'm sure his trade value has diminished somewhat, but teams will definitely give him a look if he's available.

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    All this Dirk trade talk makes me have 1 question.

    How do you convince someone to actually TAKE Dirk after his performance in the post season? Unless someone gives up players for Dirk, I wouldn't see a lot of teams that would be interested.

    See Dennis Johnson.

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    Mavs should just make a run at Billups, and trade that piece of Harris, and they would be fine

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    Most of the changes that are being purposed her would not have helped us vs the Warriors. The Warriors play four SF's and an oversized PG.

    When a team is hitting prayer shots like the Warriors were, your not going to be beat them. Its just that simple. Down by three, throw the ball from half court ... It will go in ... Have a turnover but gain possesion with .5 on the shot clock? Throw it toward the rim, it will go in

    The only thing that Mav fans can take from that series is that GOD is a Warriors fan .. At least for that series.

    That doesn't give them an excuse to quit after halftime, all the Mavs need to look hard in the mirrior about that.

    Now, to the changes. Could anyone have guarded Davis in the series? No (The only defensive job that I remembered in the whole series was actually Diop with a few stops on Davis). Is there a Center in the League that is comfertable guarding the three point line? No.

    How much of a 67 win team should be changed to "Match-up" with the eight seed? I posted this else where and got no response.

    This team is made to beat the Spurs, Pistons and Heat. If a team puts a PG, SG, SF, PF, and C on the floor, the Mavs are built to beat them. Before the trade at the deadline, only the Suns and at times the Bulls were teams that the Mavs were not "Built to beat" After the trade deadline, the Warriors were added to the list.

    Most other teams in the League play with a traditional center on the floor. The problem with changing the team to beat the 13% of teams that don't "Play the way everyone else does" is that you will no longer be in a position to beat the other 87% of the league.

    If the Mavs run into the Lakers or Clippers, they advance to play the Jazz or Rockets .. All those teams play "Traditional B-Ball" and as such, the Mavs are built to beat them. Then they would face the Spurs or Sun ... Mavs would hope for the Spurs because once again, they are built to beat that type of team.

    It was a bad draw, as would have been a match-up with the Suns along the way.

    What are the chances of meeting the Warriors again next year in the playoffs?, balance those odds against running into any number of "Traditional playing teams" and you see why no changes, other then cosmetic in nature, are warrented.

    I don't like that fact that we lost in the first round, but I will take my chances with close to the same roster next year (By that I am talking about all starters plus Diop and Stackhouse returning)

    Buckner, George and Croshere are trade bait.
    Last edited by Dalhoop; 05-07-2007 at 06:43 PM.

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    or maybe as my brother suggests...

    trade Terry/Diop for Jermaine O'Neal.

    sign Bonzi Wells, Steve Blake, and Stackhouse.

    PG - Harris, Blake, Barea
    SG - Wells, Stackhouse, Ager
    SF - Howard, Buckner
    PF - Nowtizki, Mensa-Bonsu
    C - O'Neal, Damp, Mbenga
    Which Bonzi? The Bonzi we saw in the playoffs in 2005 or the one we saw this past season? If it's the one after contract, then I'll pass.

    Oh and mardigan. I take it you don't like Harris?

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    All this Dirk trade talk makes me have 1 question.

    How do you convince someone to actually TAKE Dirk after his performance in the post season? Unless someone gives up players for Dirk, I wouldn't see a lot of teams that would be interested.
    You have to be joking.

    Dirk had one bad playoff series. He's a top 5 player in this league. Every single team would consider taken him if the situation was right.

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    You have to be joking.

    Dirk had one bad playoff series. He's a top 5 player in this league. Every single team would consider taken him if the situation was right.
    exactly, anyone who thinks otherwise is a super homer

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    Get rid of the owner and most of the problems will be solved. I think that he interfered too much and that influenced the outcome.

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    You have to be joking.

    Dirk had one bad playoff series. He's a top 5 player in this league. Every single team would consider taken him if the situation was right.
    Top 5 my ass maybe top 20....

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    If they don't trade Dirk for KG (which I doubt they will)... then we need to find another true superstar that is hungry to win, which leads me to T-Mac.

    Keep Stack, Diop, and George.

    Trade Howard, Terry, Mbenga, and draft picks for T-Mac and John Lucas.

    Sign Luke Walton, Desmon Mason, or Eddie Jones. Sign Jamaal Magliore. If possible, try to get Mike Bibby as well.

    PG - Bibby (maybe, but doubtful), Harris, Lucas
    SG - McGrady, Stackhouse, Ager
    SF - Walton/Mason/Jones, George
    PF - Nowitzki, Magliore
    C - Diop, Dampier
    Uhhh you're joking right?

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    Top 5 my ass maybe top 20....
    haha yeah right

  20. #45
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    Which Bonzi? The Bonzi we saw in the playoffs in 2005 or the one we saw this past season? If it's the one after contract, then I'll pass.

    Oh and mardigan. I take it you don't like Harris?
    Keep in mind that Bonzi wasn't used much either, because of the style of play he likes, and the style of play that Van Gundy does. Plus, Van Gundy is just an idiot regardless. Bonzi would fit greatly in the Mavericks' system, espeicially with his great versatility.

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    Uhhh you're joking right?
    the fact is, if we want to keep dirk, we need to find either better scorers, a post up player, or another superstar. finding another superstar will be the easiest way to go. I think that T-Mac would fit in our system greatly. but the more i think about it, we can get Jermaine O'Neal for fairly cheaply compared to other superstars around the league, especially since he doesn't want to stay, and that the Pacers need to rebuild. I say give them Terry, Diop, some draft picks, and younger players that we have. In place, they will get more picks/youth to rebuild, a scorer in Terry, and a young, solid low post defender with plenty of room for growth in Diop.

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    Dallas should first trade for Kidd. Than they need a low post prescence. So here is Dallas's new lineup.
    Kidd, Terry, Howard, Nowitzki, and Duncan. Fantasy basketball is fun. lol

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    Dallas should first trade for Kidd. Than they need a low post prescence. So here is Dallas's new lineup.
    Kidd, Terry, Howard, Nowitzki, and Duncan. Fantasy basketball is fun. lol
    I would say that that would be the greatest lineup ever if Terry weren't there...

    Exchange him for a Chauncey Billups and then we're talking...

  24. #49
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    Top 5 my ass maybe top 20....
    Top 5. Easily. You're a damn fool.

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    people will still take dirk believe me. I'm sure his trade value has diminished somewhat, but teams will definitely give him a look if he's available.
    I think we should get him to back up Timmy.

    He's a good rebounder and he's long. I also think he can spread the floor with his jumper.

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