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    Realistic Spurs Fan Amuseddaysleeper's Avatar
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    So while I'm sure many of you are obviously disappointed with the early playoff exit, i was wondering what you guys hope your front office does this offseason.


    I actually think some of this talk of the mavs either needing to...


    a) blow up the team


    or


    b) trade dirk

    are greatly exaggerated.


    i think it really comes down to th mavs facing the worst possible matchup a the worst possible time.


    Who's available this summer that you guys have a realistic shot at getting?

    While some of you may hate stackhouse (I do too) I think he was one of the few players that showed up this playoffs (or at least in games 4,5, and 6)


    Are you willing to part with dirk, howard, or terry?

    I'm sure a lot of KG to dallas rumors will pop up this summer.

    and are there some of you left who think the team is just fine, but the mavs happened to run into the one team that knew how to expose them?


    thoughts?

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    So while I'm sure many of you are obviously disappointed with the early playoff exit, i was wondering what you guys hope your front office does this offseason.


    I actually think some of this talk of the mavs either needing to...


    a) blow up the team


    or


    b) trade dirk

    are greatly exaggerated.


    i think it really comes down to th mavs facing the worst possible matchup a the worst possible time.


    Who's available this summer that you guys have a realistic shot at getting?

    While some of you may hate stackhouse (I do too) I think he was one of the few players that showed up this playoffs (or at least in games 4,5, and 6)


    Are you willing to part with dirk, howard, or terry?

    I'm sure a lot of KG to dallas rumors will pop up this summer.

    and are there some of you left who think the team is just fine, but the mavs happened to run into the one team that knew how to expose them?


    thoughts?
    Little of all of the above. Mavs need a low post player and a decent PG. I think everyone except Dirk and Howard could be traded

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    like i said in another thread,i hope the mavs have talks with the blazers and pacers, who are looking to move randolph and O'niell respectivly...a deal to indiana involving harris, damp, and maybe another piece, for O'neill and a filler would more than likly get the job done...david harrison is the pacers new big man so it seems like a no brainer to move o'neill for a young athletic point guard in harris seeing as how tinsely is ALWAYS injured...same with portland i think either harris or terry for get randolph from them
    second,i think the mavs(as was rumored) need to go sign desmond mason...he gives us an agressive finisher...which we lacked in the playoffs...agressiveness
    third, if the above mentioned deal goes down i would look to the mavs to draft a point guard in the draft...mike conolly jr. would be the perfect fit
    so in my perfect off-season we get our post player in O'neill, an agressive finisher in mason, and an impressive young player in conolly

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    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    i seriously would trade Dirk for KG. Dirk went 2-13 in the game we needed him most as well as continuously let people go by him for layups. it seems that when the Mavs have that opportunity to put teams away or win the chamionship he is reluctant to take it. (2-0 in Finals, game 4 when we couldve buried the Warriors, game 6 when Davis went out with injury)

    but the big thing is that we need low post scoring to win us that championship that we dont have right now. KG's heart and willingness to take the last shot was never in question, Dirk is a different story.

    we need to keep Harris, Stackhouse, Diop, and Howard but Dampier and George need to go. Terry i feel indifferent.

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    Please ... don't trade Dirk ... I'll miss the blondie

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    I don't think blowing the team up is the answer. If you win 67 games, you're doing something right. But something is also really wrong to go out the way they did. Not so much losing, but the lack of fight and the way they laid down in the third quarter. When it circulates at halftime at press row that Don Nelson is planning a big party after the game to celebrate a series win, and you're only down two points, that should make you MAD.

    I don't think you can bring this team back more or less intact after what happened. Some changes need to be made. There's not a player on the roster I would classify as "untouchable" after this series, but I would insist on being patient and waiting for the right offer instead of shipping guys off in panic moves.

    We already have a point guard, his name is Devin Harris. Jason Terry is one guy that I wouldn't mind seeing in a different uniform next year. He's a shooting guard in a point's body -- too undersized to guard opposing two's, and doesn't have the ball-handling ability or the size to guard opposing points like Baron Davis.

    It goes without saying we need a low-post scoring threat, but we don't have the cap flexibility to bring in Zach Randolph or his max contract, or Eddy Curry. Sean May might work, although he's been injured a lot in his short career. Given that the Sonics are probably starting over in preparation for the move, Terry, Dampier and whatever else it takes to get Ray Allen for the starting shooting guard spot would be nice, but maybe that's a pipe dream.

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    i seriously would trade Dirk for KG. .
    Minnesota doesn't do that deal. Dirk for KG doesn't make Minny any better...they'd still be the 10th best team in the West...not bad enough to completely crater and get a top pick to start over, but not going to the playoffs either. If they deal KG, it's going to be for a combination of draft picks, cap relief and young players. They're only going to trade him for an opportunity to start over.

    So all this KG for Dirk talk is silly.

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    I think that the Mavs will not blow the team up. I think overall they like what they have built... but I hope they sense some changes need to be made. Minor ones tho.

    No trading of Dirk - but i think they need another scoring option who can post and bring some form of leadership to the team. i think Dirk could stand to run more bc its obvious he cant keep up with the run and gun teams... maybe add a lil more weight.

    Diop could stand to lose weight and pick up a better offensive game.
    Howard could stand to get better handles, not resort to the 3 pt line so much - he needs to become that go getter, dont matter what.
    Stack needs to come back and he could stand to work on his distribution of the ball more - he falls into the ballhog phase too much.
    I could stand to lose Terry.
    But I wouldn't mind letting go of Harris either.... but if we gotta keep one and lose the other, keep Harris since he is a speed demon, but he could work on his brakin skills, his ballhandling, and his finishing.

    I think the whole team could use some work... but then again, a team that won 67-15, do you really wanna dismantle them soooo much? Minor changes yes, catastrophic ones no.

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    the thing is if we loose terry we loose alot of out-side shooting(unless we get someone who is liek terry but bigger..like a mike miller)the only good shooter in our line-up would be dirk...and we want him to play more inside

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    Rowdy. Loud. Proud. schadenfreude52's Avatar
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    I actually think some of this talk of the mavs either needing to...

    a) blow up the team

    or

    b) trade dirk

    are greatly exaggerated.
    So do I.

    i think it really comes down to th mavs facing the worst possible matchup a the worst possible time.
    Yes. My sentiments exactly.

    While some of you may hate stackhouse (I do too) I think he was one of the few players that showed up this playoffs (or at least in games 4,5, and 6)
    I think Stackhouse is the type of player we need to keep. He has tons of bravado and, as witnessed in this series, doesn't fold easily under pressure.

    Are you willing to part with dirk, howard, or terry?
    No. No. Possibly.

    and are there some of you left who think the team is just fine, but the mavs happened to run into the one team that knew how to expose them?
    Yes.

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    I don't think blowing the team up is the answer. If you win 67 games, you're doing something right. But something is also really wrong to go out the way they did. Not so much losing, but the lack of fight and the way they laid down in the third quarter. When it circulates at halftime at press row that Don Nelson is planning a big party after the game to celebrate a series win, and you're only down two points, that should make you MAD.

    I don't think you can bring this team back more or less intact after what happened. Some changes need to be made. There's not a player on the roster I would classify as "untouchable" after this series, but I would insist on being patient and waiting for the right offer instead of shipping guys off in panic moves.

    We already have a point guard, his name is Devin Harris. Jason Terry is one guy that I wouldn't mind seeing in a different uniform next year. He's a shooting guard in a point's body -- too undersized to guard opposing two's, and doesn't have the ball-handling ability or the size to guard opposing points like Baron Davis.

    It goes without saying we need a low-post scoring threat, but we don't have the cap flexibility to bring in Zach Randolph or his max contract, or Eddy Curry. Sean May might work, although he's been injured a lot in his short career. Given that the Sonics are probably starting over in preparation for the move, Terry, Dampier and whatever else it takes to get Ray Allen for the starting shooting guard spot would be nice, but maybe that's a pipe dream.



    Randolph or Curry is not the answer for this. Curry is overwieght and a terrible defender. Zach plays PF so either him or Dirk would have to play C and neither can guard well at PF let alone C. As for Ray Alen, sure it would be nice to get him but Seattle wont trade for terry and damp, both have a combined $100 millilon due over there next 5 years

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    Trade us Dirk.

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    Need more pts off the bench. Maybe this is where a better low post scorer comes into play. They aren't going to trade Dirk nor do I think they should.

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    Randolph or Curry is not the answer for this. Curry is overwieght and a terrible defender. Zach plays PF so either him or Dirk would have to play C and neither can guard well at PF let alone C. As for Ray Alen, sure it would be nice to get him but Seattle wont trade for terry and damp, both have a combined $100 millilon due over there next 5 years
    I also am opposed to bringing in Randolph because he's a head. If he was coachable and didn't have a max deal, I'd be all over him in a heartbeat.

    What do you think of Sean May? The Charlotte frontcourt is getting a little crowded if they resign Gerald Wallace.

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    Give us Duncan in return and you got yourself a deal!

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    Give us Duncan in return and you got yourself a deal!
    Oh , I'm very much against trading Dirk, yet I'd make that move in a heartbeat.

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    howard, dirk and diop stay, get a real point guard, terry and harris won't cut it...if terry could be moved to the two spot then it would be better but even then, he's inconsistent with his shooting. i'd even say stack stays because of his energy and points off the bench and he has balls. other than that, everyone else should be up for grabs if the right opp came along...buck, george, harris, terry, damp, cro. i have seen more improvement in diop the last month or so and even though he's far from any kind of a low post threat, he continues to improve so i'm willing to wait and see what happens. if we can get a real low post dude who can give us some help that would be ideal but i'd look for a point first, that's priority. devin isn't going to get it done, he's past his trial period and while he's superquick, his layups are too lazy, he makes too many turnovers and mistakes and he's foul prone.

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    We'll take Dampier off of your hands.

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    As far as I'm concerned, the following four players simply cannot be traded: Dirk, Howard, Harris, Diop.

    Anyone else, Terry included, is probably fair game.

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    The Mavs simply need to stay the course with the team they have. This team won 67 games during the regular season for good reason. They simply had a horrible series at the same time that Golden State had an incredible series. If GS had that healthy roster shooting the way they were in round 1, they would have been a top 4 seed in the West.

    When healthy, I think the Mavs can beat anyone in the league. George wasn't healthy at all since his knee injury, Buckner had a knee and ankle problem and barely played, and Dampier missed key time down the stretch and in the playoffs with a shoulder problem. Get all these guys healthy, resign Stack if possible and maybe try to add one guy with a post game and you're good to go. If you need to trade anyone trade Jason Terry. It's time for Harris to emerge as the starting PG and we can live without an overpaid pure shooter like Terry.

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    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    for Duncan?

    i would only trade Dirk for Sheed, KG, or Timmy. otherwise we should focus on getting that second scorer

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    for Duncan?

    i would only trade Dirk for Sheed, KG, or Timmy. otherwise we should focus on getting that second scorer
    Dirk for Sheed? Really?

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    Dirk for Rasheed and Hamilton. Rasheed is a good player but not Dirk's status.

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    who signed Buckner for 5yrs.

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    If I were Donnie...

    I'd resign Stack. He's a useful scorer off the bench and he's the only guy on our team right now with any cojones.

    I'd make Devin Harris the fulltime starter at PG. If it doesn't work out, we can always bite the bullet and trade for an Andre Miller or Jason Kidd at the trade deadline.

    I'd trade Terry to the Clippers for Corey Maggette. The Clippers do this deal because Cassell is 37 years old and can't play 40 minutes a night for 80 games, and Livingston is going to be out a long time. We do this deal because he gives us a real shooting guard that can go to the rim and draw fouls.

    I'd also sign Desmond Mason as a FA. He's a terrible jumpshooter, he can't shoot FTs either, but he can post up on the low blocks, he can defend perimeter guys as well. He gives us two things we desperately need: a two-way player unlike Damp or Diop, low-post scoring, and excellent defense. The Warriors didn't have to worry about guarding Buck or George. They'd have to pay attention to Mason anytime he's on the floor, and he'd do a good job on Nash, Parker, B-Diddy, etc.

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