Looking at this on a go forward basis. Manu just has to play better. If he can't wake up and start taking these games over, we'll be lucky to get out of this series.
BTW - the League giving Horry a 2 game suspension when a 1 game was barely warranted (Bell charged him after all) is their way of setting up a game 7 showdown. The Spurs take 5, and the Suns take 6 without the only other mobile big man the Spurs have being able to play. So relax Suns fans - the league is still taking care of you.
I think Amare has shown his immaturity all series. The foul trouble, the dirty comments. You can hear the frustration in Nash's comments after game 3.
1) You guys LOST to the Mavs last year...I thought that Spurs fans didn't gripe about officiating?
2) The Mavs pulled probably the biggest choke job EVER in the NBA by losing to GS...somehow managing to eclipse their monumental choke job in the Finals last year.
And your point is? Neither of those things pertaining to the Mavs changes the ridiculous nature of the suspensions of Stoudamire and Diaw. Spurs cahmpionship this year = giant * to everybody but diehard SA fans. This whole thing taints the credibility of the league as a whole.
Hey look a completely new take! Oh nevermind, it's just regurgitated bull .
The point is: Get lost, Troll.
The even more obvious point is that you are nothing more than a whiny homer.
I really don't believe in conspiracy theories(getting to a game 7).
If it were the last two guys on the end of the Suns bench, no one would care. But it's Amare, so it's a travesty. Lame.
The Spurs are now considered the Bad Guys now and i hate that but it's true.
Here is something funny a friend sent me today. I don't know where she got it but it's pretty funny.
A Week Ago
Stern: Hey, Pop, want to get to the WFC?
Pop: Yes, please
Stern: okay, here's what you do...have a reserve player do something to their best player... you know the one I'm talking about, and in all the melay I'm sure SOMEONE will be all upset and do something I can suspend them for
Pop: Okay, who's okay but not a big player for me who could do such a thing?
Stern: How about that Horry guy? He can shoot 3's but has only been averaging about 4 points... so worth 4 points!
Pop: excellent (in his best Mr. Burns, from the Simpsons)
Yesterday
Pop: DSter! S'up b!tch? how WELL did that work out?
Stern: I KNOW! (channelling Monica from Friends)
Pop: Seriously, who would've thunk it that that Amare guy and his backup would come to defend poor little Nashie? It was frakkin awesome!
Stern: AND how! Plus I got Stu Jackson to make the "recommendation" to suspend them... all the heat's off me!!!!!!
Pop: Thanks, man... couldn't of done this with out you... now how about working something against that AK 47 guy?
Stern: I'll work on it
P&S: HIGH FIVE
It's not a conspiracy, it's the league knowing they have to suspend Diaw and Stoudemire when they didn't want to in order to save face, and they cleverly used that to their advantage by suspending Horry 2 games when 1 was barely warranted. They knew no one would cry about Horry getting another game since he laid the shot down, and that keeping Horry out of 6 would increase the chances of the league getting the 7th game that they want. Very clever, but it's up to Bonner, Oberto, and Elson to step up in that position and dominate to make up for Horry's absense. The Spurs need to take the next two games to the league at their own game.
I have a problem with the rigidity of the rule taking discretionary judgment away from Stu Jackson, and that I'd rather the Spurs beat the Suns at full strength but...
That quoted paragraph sure makes it sound like Hench's biggest problem with all this is that he won't get to watch the Suns in the Finals.
Oh great now we're getting conspiracy theorists. Right, when a week ago they were all crowing about how Stern will make sure we'd never see a Spurs vs. Pistons final cuz it's bad for business. Consistent people ain't.
League hasn't awarded anybody. THEY BROKE THE RULES AND CAME OFF THE BENCH!!! It’s not like the players have not been WARNED over and over again of the consequences for coming off the bench. Think about the Pistons, Indiana game....the NBA won't tolerate it.
Stop crying that the world is out to get the SUNS.....crap happened....actions were taken. The END
Spurs fans....YOU ALL BETTER PICK IT UP....I’m sick of reading posts that the suns might actually win this thing. I have been a Spurs fan my whole life and my only complaint is it always seem that our fan bases go running for the door when things look bad. IF WE WIN TONIGHT...WE WILL WIN IT ALL!!! PROMISE...
Were gonna win tonight....I refuse to believe Duncan is going to let his team choke again like they did on monday.
David Blaine: "the NBA is UNBELIEVABLE" Its unbelievable how THE DIRTY SPURS mysteriously pulled Amare and Boris outta their seats!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!
Frankly, I think that's the common theme for those in the national media who are screaming about this.
They're turning Amare into some sort of persecuted icon.
Pretty funny how you can quote a post I never made. Actually, I am a basketball fan which far transcends simple minded hatred of any other team. In fact, I have been pulling for the Spurs because I think they are the best team in the league this year.
But the suspensions are ridiculous. They diminish the credibility of the playoffs. This isn't a Saturday morning YMCA league we are talking about- its the freaking NBA.
And if it was Duncan and Ginobli being suspended I can just imagine the vitriolic posts on SpursTalk.
It's sickening. The media is treating this idiot like some sort of victim.
On another note, Stu Jackson is on the radio saying that it was a no-brainer to suspend Stoudemire and Diaw and that the rule is what keeps things like what Kermit Washington did to Rudy T. from happening. It basically keeps possible peacemakers on the bench from being mistaken for combatants. The most intelligent thing I've heard yet. At least Jackson has his wits about him in this situation.
The Spurs have not won yet...
We still have to win two more games, including facing a very hostile crowd in PHX tonight, and one reved up Steve Nash.
If anyone thinks this is gonna be some kind of cakewalk for the Spurs, they haven't been watching the series. The Suns can beat the Spurs w/o Amare.
And even if the Suns do lose tonight, does anyone believe the Spurs are going to get anymore calls for the rest of the series?
This thing is going to Seven, and the Suns will have a great chance to win game 7.
Nothing is over, nothing has been decided yet, the Spurs have not won.
Well, he is Black Jesus.
This is the end of the discussion right here. Well said, and i wish people would understand this for what it is.
This argument is honestly the crux of most of what is wrong with today's world.
Makes me sick sometimes.
Simple question id love to see suns players answer honestly.
If the suspensions were of Marks and Rose, would you still view them as ridiculous and wrong and decietful...etc..
just curious.
I dont like the fact that it happened. Hate it actually, but i also understand, and would understand if the roles were reversed, that the rule is a rule that has to be applied, regardless of who or what the situation is. If you change this ideal, the rule is no longer valid, and you cannot govern.
What was Horry supposed to do? He had to foul Nash to stop the clock. How can you foul someone flying by you, next to the sideline (so he won't veer away to avoid you)?
If you stick out an arm, it's a clothsline. If you try to bearhug, his momentum will make it look like a full takedown/tackle. If you try to touch him with your hand, it either doesn't get called (and the clock ticks on) or it looks like slap or even a punch.
What was Horry supposed to do? What is the "accepted" play? Can anybody tell me?
What was Horry supposed to do? He had to foul Nash to stop the clock. How can you foul someone flying by you, next to the sideline (so he won't veer away to avoid you)?
If you stick out an arm, it's a clothsline. If you try to bearhug, his momentum will make it look like a full takedown/tackle. If you try to touch him with your hand, it either doesn't get called (and the clock ticks on) or it looks like slap or even a punch.
What was Horry supposed to do? What is the "accepted" play? Can anybody tell me?
exactly. nash saw horry there on the sideline with no room to squeeze through. he opted to drive straight ahead anyways. pretty sneaky. the hubbub about the foul is rather amusing if you are old enough to have hair on your nuts.
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