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    If the Suns assistant coaches would have done their job, there'd be no crying.

    And if Nash didn't try to sell it, perhaps his own players wouldn't have rushed to his aid.

    The Suns have no one to blame outside of their locker room.

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    it was amazing how quickly nash recovered after he saw things got out of hand

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    If the Suns assistant coaches would have done their job, there'd be no crying.

    And if Nash didn't try to sell it, perhaps his own players wouldn't have rushed to his aid.

    The Suns have no one to blame outside of their locker room.
    They never do, but it hasn't stopped them yet.

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    I can't wait to see the proposed "Instinct and Intent" corollaries to the bench rule that whiners come up with.

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    Yet another whining pvssy. Who knew!?

    Simmons, go suck on your toilet bowl Celtic, the same team to whom Tim Duncan has lost but once.

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    Yeah, he was way off on that...he makes it sound like Bowen is some goon who goes out to intentionally hurt everyone he guards. Worse, he makes it sound like Bowen is what's wrong with the NBA. No it's not. He's a hard-nosed, compe ive player who busts his a** every night, who had to bounce from team to team until he could prove he deserved to be a starter on a championship level team. That's not what's wrong with the NBA. That's what's RIGHT about the NBA. He plays physical, and certainly goes right up to the edge of the rules, but he's not "cheap".

    Simmons only wishes THAT Bowen had played for the Celtics.
    Simmons is not saying that Bowen is a problem of the NBA at all, rather a symptom of its nanny like rules. What he is saying is that the NBA is the problem by effectively protecting a player like Bowen with its anti-retaliatory rules. Simmons doesn't want the NBA to handle the problem of Bowen being dirty. He wants the NBA to allow others to handle that problem like was the case back in the day.

    Does anyone think Bowen would have pulled any of his crap with the old school Pistons or Knicks? Isiah Thomas wanted to **** him up as a coach after his dirty play, what do you think he would have done to Bowen if he had actually been playing instead of coaching that night? He and his teammates would have "corrected" Bowen's behavior. That's Simmons' point....the NBA has effectively allowed situations like this to occur because they don't allow the players to handle dirty play the old fashioned way.

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    and the moment someone decks bell for a thrown 'bow then the spurs are just being "dirty"...yawn.

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    Hilarious.

    Simmons was being praised as a genius a few days ago when he wrote an article saying how Duncan was one of the top players of all time and maybe the best of the last decade.

    Now he's a whining Pu$$y. He's a Suns fan now because he doesnt see thinks the Spurs way?

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    So Simmons wants more fights.

    Brilliant.

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    I wonder if a white guy had "decked" a black superstar, would there be such a hue and cry in the media? Hmm ...

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    the league should do away with penalties for going into the crowd as well. hey, it was great when sir charles spit on that little girl. no top 10 list of the greatest moments in nba history is complete without kermit washington's fist rearranging rudy t's face.

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    I wonder if a white guy had "decked" a black superstar, would there be such a hue and cry in the media? Hmm ...
    ding ding ding we have a winner. the media loves a white superstar.

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    Does anyone else think that Bruce is kind of clumsy relative to other NBA players? I mean, he is a strange type of player: He shoots better from the corner compared to straight on, and the year he led the league in 3pt% he shot better from the 3pt line than he did from the FT line.

    Most of all, he has to be the hands down NBA leader for least amount of time handling the ball among small forwards. I don't think anyone could disagree that there are times where he just looks awkward on the court.

    So, Nash is guarding Bruce by standing right in his face 30 feet from the basket and Bruce tries to go off the dribble. Was anybody else not surprised at all that he ended up kneeing Nash in the groin in this scenario, because I know I wasn't.

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    Hilarious.

    Simmons was being praised as a genius a few days ago when he wrote an article saying how Duncan was one of the top players of all time and maybe the best of the last decade.

    Now he's a whining Pu$$y. He's a Suns fan now because he doesnt see thinks the Spurs way?
    Typical Spurs fans...

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    Jackson and Ron-Ron's suspensions in Detriot were too harsh!

    That rule has to be reviewed.
    Last edited by smeagol; 05-16-2007 at 05:20 PM.

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    Does anyone else think that Bruce is kind of clumsy relative to other NBA players? I mean, he is a strange type of player: He shoots better from the corner compared to straight on, and the year he led the league in 3pt% he shot better from the 3pt line than he did from the FT line.

    Most of all, he has to be the hands down NBA leader for least amount of time handling the ball among small forwards. I don't think anyone could disagree that there are times where he just looks awkward on the court.

    So, Nash is guarding Bruce by standing right in his face 30 feet from the basket and Bruce tries to go off the dribble. Was anybody else not surprised at all that he ended up kneeing Nash in the groin in this scenario, because I know I wasn't.
    that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. not being used to handle the ball up court, and not having control over your body are two COMPLETELY diferent things.

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
    everyone on around the horn agees
    steve kerr
    marc stein
    jim rome
    ect
    ect....
    Dude, you watch way too much tv. Time for you to get a job.

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    I wonder if a white guy had "decked" a black superstar, would there be such a hue and cry in the media? Hmm ...
    Have you ever seen Mark Madsen play?

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    Isiah Thomas wanted to **** him up as a coach after his dirty play,
    Watch the video. Francis jumped forward into Bowen. It's always interesting when those of you that are critical can't get simple facts correct. Further proof that you are just repeating what you hear from other people.

    If you were smarter, you'd be embarassed.

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    "NOW THAT'S A F------G FOUL!"

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    With regard to Bruce getting his feet under people, is it any different than, say, someone planting their feet just outside the arc, beneath an airborne player going to the rim?

    Nash is a master of that little puss move.

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    Hilarious.

    Simmons was being praised as a genius a few days ago when he wrote an article saying how Duncan was one of the top players of all time and maybe the best of the last decade.

    Now he's a whining Pu$$y. He's a Suns fan now because he doesnt see thinks the Spurs way?
    Simmons' columns have always been taken with a grain of salt. he's flipflopped between the spurs, mavs and suns all season. one month the suns and mavs are saving the NBA, next month the mavs are far inferior to the suns, then duncan is all of a sudden the NBA's savior.

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    Isn't it the current thing to bash the Spurs? If you want web hits that's what you publish. The Spurs haven't generated this kind of interest ever. The writers probably figure if they can blow this far enough out of proportion they can milk it all the way to the Finals. If there are enough plays in a playoff series that can be hard or questionable to make the Spurs look dirty then the networks may have found their golden goose.

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    This article is 10000000000000000000000000000000000% accurate.

    Simmons is a smart dude and the tuck rule is a perfect comparison. And yes, debating if Bowen is dirty is like debating if OJ was a murderer, if the sky is blue, etc.

    It's gotten so obvious as not even merit a debate or discourse anymore. More of just a factual statement.

    The article is not just about Bruce Bowen, but also about the pussification of the NBA.

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    Sunsbum. Ive now heard two of your own phoenix suns players say that however much they may not like the outcome, the rule was implemented fairly.


    Jalen Rose and Amare Stoudamire himself have both said this on national media.


    Im not sure how old you are, or if you have been that educated, but the National Media talk shows (around the horn, Rome, etc) love to get ratings. They love to be controversial, this whole thing is a big fat cash cow for them.

    Id listen to your team...and follow suit.


    stop being a looser and start having faith in your damn team. Good luck suns, hope you guys make it a good game.

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