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    Starts out with some good points about how the leaving the bench rule is stupid... and then he just loses his ing mind. How can a Larry Bird fan call a player like Bowen Dirty?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...6&sportCat=nba

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    He's right about his flopping rant.

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    Starts out with some good points about how the leaving the bench rule is stupid... and then he just loses his ing mind. How can a Larry Bird fan call a player like Bowen Dirty?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...6&sportCat=nba

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    Yeah, he was way off on that...he makes it sound like Bowen is some goon who goes out to intentionally hurt everyone he guards. Worse, he makes it sound like Bowen is what's wrong with the NBA. No it's not. He's a hard-nosed, compe ive player who busts his a** every night, who had to bounce from team to team until he could prove he deserved to be a starter on a championship level team. That's not what's wrong with the NBA. That's what's RIGHT about the NBA. He plays physical, and certainly goes right up to the edge of the rules, but he's not "cheap".

    Simmons only wishes THAT Bowen had played for the Celtics.

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    This article is 10000000000000000000000000000000000% accurate.

    Simmons is a smart dude and the tuck rule is a perfect comparison. And yes, debating if Bowen is dirty is like debating if OJ was a murderer, if the sky is blue, etc.

    It's gotten so obvious as not even merit a debate or discourse anymore. More of just a factual statement.

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    Good article in regards to the bench rule.

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
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    I liked how he said...

    "As anyone who's ever played basketball knows, with the exception of clumsy people who probably shouldn't be playing in the first place, there are no accidents on a basketball court. Your feet just don't coincidentally land under someone else's feet as they're shooting a jump shot, and you don't just coincidentally kick someone in the calf as they're going up for a layup or dunk. These things don't just happen. They don't. The only room for error happens when someone's trying to block a fastbreak layup or dunk, takes a roundhouse swipe and inadvertently ends up hitting his opponent's head instead of the ball (like we saw with Matt Barnes when he clocked Matt Harpring Tuesday night). "

    Anyone who plays basketball understands how true that is, and how full of Bowen is when he acts like its an accident when he does the he does.

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    edit -- inadvertent double post.

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
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    Maybe next time the Commissioner should put his disciplinary rulings to a vote of those journalists. While he's at it, he might just go ahead and do one of those nba.com poll-brackets to decide which teams make the Finals. Each of those would be a wonderful idea for the league.

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    I liked how he said...

    "As anyone who's ever played basketball knows, with the exception of clumsy people who probably shouldn't be playing in the first place, there are no accidents on a basketball court. Your feet just don't coincidentally land under someone else's feet as they're shooting a jump shot, and you don't just coincidentally kick someone in the calf as they're going up for a layup or dunk. These things don't just happen. They don't. The only room for error happens when someone's trying to block a fastbreak layup or dunk, takes a roundhouse swipe and inadvertently ends up hitting his opponent's head instead of the ball (like we saw with Matt Barnes when he clocked Matt Harpring Tuesday night). "

    Anyone who plays basketball understands how true that is, and how full of Bowen is when he acts like its an accident when he does the he does.
    Yeah, he nailed this but I'd still want Bowen on my team. If he's going to get away with it why wouldn't you want him on your team?

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    funny how you have to dig for something to knock bowen for. look, he's moved his foot a couple of times. oh no.

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    So the rule should be changed to accomodate the "instinct" that 20% of the Suns bench couldn't overcome.

    Brilliant.

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
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    what does sarver say? lol ing .

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    So the rule should be changed to accomodate the "instinct" that 20% of the Suns bench couldn't overcome.

    Brilliant.
    Obviously, Marcus Banks, Jalen Rose, Pat Burke, and Eric Piatkowski just don't really care about Steve Nash and his personal welfare.

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    If everyone had a vote, the Spurs wouldn't be allowed in the playoffs. Too bad they decide the outcome of the games by playing them instead of conventional wisdom.

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    Yeah, he nailed this but I'd still want Bowen on my team. If he's going to get away with it why wouldn't you want him on your team?
    oh im not arguing that i wouldnt want bowen on my team. i would love for him to be on the Mavs. while i think he is dirty as , he is still the best defender in the league, and a of a player to have. but he does do a lot of his intentionally.

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    Its not a bad take. You guys need to stop crying when Bowen is called dirty. Whether YOU as a Spurs fan thinks he is dirty or not isn't the point. Bruce Bowen even though you are not going to like this, is considered one of the dirtiest players in the league. BY THE LEAGUES PLAYERS! I'm not saying he is, but the players believe he is, and the thats only going to bleed over into the press and the fans.

    The good news for the Spurs however, is that he is also considered one of the best defensive players in the league, and he plays for our team.

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    funny how you have to dig for something to knock bowen for. look, he's moved his foot a couple of times. oh no.
    you obviously dont play basketball, otherwise you wouldn't say stupid like that.

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
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    Were the suspensions done according to the letter of the rule?

    Yes . . . so what the is your point?

    If you are given a ticket for driving at 60 mph on a highway that only allows you to drive at 55, what the is your defence going to be? That a max of 55 is stupid. You are probaly right, and I would agree with you, but good luck with that defence in front of a judge. You'll be paying for that ticket in no time.

    This is the same thing. There has been a rule in place for the last ten years, why should it be applied differently for a Suns player than to any other player in the league?

    Because these are the playoffs and Amare and Boris suspended hurts tonights game? Although this is true, it isn't a justification to give your stupid boys a pass.

    Because you and some journalists dont like the rule? Buddy, tough luck, it's a rule and rules are there for a reason.

    I don't like Amare and Diaw being suspended one bit. But I connot argue against the logic of the suspension.

    Your arguments, on the other hand, have no leg to stand on. "The sports journalists don't like the rule"

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    another journalist that "just doesnt get it" right?

    everyone on pti agrees
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    And what are they all agreeing on? That it is not fair to your team that this is happening. What would be unfair is if Stern made the exception for your team when teams like the Knicks in 97 had half their team run for the next game for doing the same thing you guys did. How do you justify letting you guys off the hook when those other teams had to pay the same price for the same actions?

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    good article

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    The thing I found interesting was how concerned he was about Bowen's "dangerous" behavior on the court yet he later talks about the most memorable moments in the glory days of the NBA being cheap shots by some of its most famous stars.

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    I dont recall hearing Bowen say or even ever seeing him act like something he did was an accident...

    He generally walks off like nothing happened just like Horry.

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    The thing I found interesting was how concerned he was about Bowen's "dangerous" behavior on the court yet he later talks about the most memorable moments in the glory days of the NBA being cheap shots by some of its most famous stars.
    There's a different the plays that he was referencing in that they were overt acts of aggression in response to cheap play.

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