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    I'd take Billups Kidd and Parker over him in a heartbeat.
    I think Nash overall is better than Parker. Against most teams his lack of defense doesn't matter. I think there are a lot of PGs that would flourish in Phoenix -- Billups, Davis, AI, Kidd, Williams, Paul, Arenas.

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    I would take a winnner like Duncan over Nash any day. I don't understand the man love for Nash. He is not the winner or warrior that people make him out to be.

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    Nash better than stocton lebron wad tmac and iverson!??????? And where is barkley?

    Yeah I think your right I would take every one of those players over Nash. Im not sure I would put Nash in my top 5 PGs in the last ten years. His lack of defense kills him, and he can really only play one style.

    Barkley I can't remember when his last best years were. When he was with Houston he was kind of crap.

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    I would take a winnner like Duncan over Nash any day. I don't understand the man love for Nash. He is not the winner or warrior that people make him out to be.
    Nash is very good but he is also very overrated. I am seeing people rank him over lebron tmac iverson and so many others it is crazy!

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    D'Antoni said that Nash is the best player in the last 10 years.

    I'm not sure that he is in the top 5.

    Duncan is far, far superior. That's easy.

    Shaq was better.

    (3 finals mvps - vs 0 trips to the finals).

    Jordan was the greatest of all time.

    Stockton, Malone, Robinson, LeBron, Kobe, Kidd? ...


    Do you put Nash in the top 5 in the last 10 years?

    I can't.

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    Hes not even in My top 10
    1.MJ
    2.Shaq
    3.Hakeem
    4.duncan
    5. kobe
    6. malone
    7. Pippen
    8. Dominique
    9. Stockton
    10.Jason Kidd
    Last edited by Spurs>mavs; 05-19-2007 at 01:37 PM.

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    I think Nash overall is better than Parker. Against most teams his lack of defense doesn't matter. I think there are a lot of PGs that would flourish in Phoenix -- Billups, Davis, AI, Kidd, Williams, Paul, Arenas.
    Then you didn't pay attention to Parker's defense against both Nash and Barbosa. It's the same defense he played against Rip Hamilton in the finals that everyone said was a fluke. Guess what? It wasn't. Parker's head and shoulders above Nash and proves it over and over again.

    And Gilbert Arenas wouldn't flourish in any system where he's asked to pass the ball.

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    Yeah but going with the letter of the law, just to piss of D'antoni, you gotta include them.
    Then you are forgetting guys like Pippen and Hakeem and Dominique, and Robert Parish didn't officially retire until August of '97, so he has to go on the list, too.

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    Then you are forgetting guys like Pippen and Hakeem and Dominique, and Robert Parish didn't officially retire until August of '97, so he has to go on the list, too.
    Sweet, and might as well add Clyde Drexler, Moses Malone (since he played for us one of those years), and hmm anyone else?

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    Sweet, and might as well add Clyde Drexler, Moses Malone (since he played for us one of those years), and hmm anyone else?
    I forgot about Clyde, but Moses retired in like '94.

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    Then you didn't pay attention to Parker's defense against both Nash and Barbosa. It's the same defense he played against Rip Hamilton in the finals that everyone said was a fluke. Guess what? It wasn't. Parker's head and shoulders above Nash and proves it over and over again.

    And Gilbert Arenas wouldn't flourish in any system where he's asked to pass the ball.
    Blah...Parker doesn't have the b-ball IQ or skills to carry a team for a full season without #21. I'd like to see what Parker would do if they threw a Bowen type player at him for a full game with defensive help on top of that. He could barely handle Marion at times.

    What the have players like T-Mac ever done? What has Jason Kidd done? Kidd was another T-Mac when he was in the west. Every year first round and out. Couldn't throw it in the ocean either. The strategy was sag off Kidd and make him shoot. Worked everytime. He didn't do until he went to the very weak Eastern Conference.

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    how are you gonna rank nash ahead of stockton?

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    Blah...Parker doesn't have the b-ball IQ or skills to carry a team for a full season without #21. I'd like to see what Parker would do if they threw a Bowen type player at him for a full game with defensive help on top of that. He could barely handle Marion at times.
    So you are fighting facts with hypotheticals. Good argument. Parker could "barely" handle one of the most versatile all-stars in recent memory who has incredible athletic skills and is half a foot taller? Good argument.

    I'm done with you. Please drive forward.

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    So you are fighting facts with hypotheticals. Good argument. Parker could "barely" handle one of the most versatile all-stars in recent memory who has incredible athletic skills and is half a foot taller? Good argument.

    I'm done with you. Please drive forward.
    What facts? What's your support for taking Parker over Nash? What in the has Parker ever proven? That he can choke on the big stage? Yeah, he's proven that. When has he carried a team for an entire season? That's right...NEVER!! You're going to make an excuse about Marion being a half foot taller but you're going to discount Nash going against one of the premier defenders in the NBA with defensive help on top of that? If I had your weak argument I would be done too

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    He's not in top 20. WTF? Is D'Antoni stupid.

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    Since you didn't read it the first time, I specifically mentioned Parker's stellar defense against Barbosa and Nash, and referenced Parker's stellar defense against Richard Hamilton in the 2005 Finals. Those are facts.


    What's your support for taking Parker over Nash
    Asked and answered. See above.

    What in the has Parker ever proven? That he can choke on the big stage? Yeah, he's proven that.
    I'd have figured game seven of the finals and last night's game was a big stage, but maybe I'm wrong. Parker has played in more big games by his age than almost any player in NBA history, so you have a ton of bad games to choose from. You'd be better off looking at the games this season if you'd like to be objective (but we all know you wouldn't).

    When has he carried a team for an entire season? That's right...NEVER!!
    Right. Now that you admit that it's a completely fictional argument that's impossible to refute because the results of it exist only inside your little head, you can go look up "hypothetical".


    You're going to make an excuse about Marion being a half foot taller but you're going to discount Nash going against one of the premier defenders in the NBA with defensive help on top of that?
    Marion is an all star, and his size helped him. Saying that Parker "barely" handled him still means that Parker "handled" him. Don't you read your own posts?

    And since the premier defender that Nash had problems with through much of this series was Tony Parker, I believe I will conclude by saying: Pwn3d.

    You want some more, ?

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    Completely forgot about Scottie.

    He was incredible. Who else can shut down Magic Johnson?

    That was impressive.

    and Parker's defense is vastly superior to Nash's.


    Parker has been a starting point guard on a team that won 2 championships.

    He's 25 or so.

    His defense on Nash, Rip (good point Obstructed) and Barbosa was impressive.

    He has become a really, really good defender.

    I don't think very many gms would pick Nash over Parker if they could choose either one of them and keep that player for that next 8 years.

    Anyone that would is shortsighted.

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    When has he carried a team for an entire season?
    Last year with Duncan's foot problem and Ginobili's constant injuries, he lead our team to a franchise best # of victories.

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    Yeah I think your right I would take every one of those players over Nash. Im not sure I would put Nash in my top 5 PGs in the last ten years. His lack of defense kills him, and he can really only play one style.

    Barkley I can't remember when his last best years were. When he was with Houston he was kind of crap.

    Now, this is a good question: is Nash the best Sun over the last 13 years?

    Right now, I don't know the answer to that question.


    If he's not even the best Sun over the last 13 years, no way that he is the best player in the last ten years.

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    When has he carried a team for an entire season?

    Last year with Duncan's foot problem and Ginobili's constant injuries, he lead our team to a franchise best # of victories.
    yep.

    It was funny when the Spurs attorney posted: Asked and Answered.



    I spotted some people being owned.




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    I don't think very many gms would pick Nash over Parker if they could choose either one of them and keep that player for that next 8 years.
    8 years is not realistic. The Suns wouldn't make even that choice. Based on his performance, and the dismal lack of success of the Suns' system in the playoffs, if you made it 2 years Parker would hold his own just fine. The media may have a love affair with Nash, but the GMs don't.

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    Last year with Duncan's foot problem and Ginobili's constant injuries, he lead our team to a franchise best # of victories.
    And did it shooting 55 percent.

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    Nash is arguably the best player the last 3 years with two MVPs and second this year.

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    OMG! That is so disrespectful do TD. him! Nash is probably top 5 but no way was he better than TD (not even close) during the last 10 years. TD and Shaq are the only one who can be in that discussion. period.

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    Oh, maybe D'Antoni was trying to make a backhanded insult at Duncan. Do you think he's that clever? Me neither.

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