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Pablo Prigioni ?
Vaughn sucks, he is not even a third string PG.
good solid PGs are hard to come by. my point is that they should make it a priority to get a solid backup PG
Get him. He's a tremendous player.
OK so we agree to disagree, but I think most people have said that our biggest need is a SF to replace Bowen & Nocioni would be a perfect fit. He can defend 3's & 4's & shoot the 3. If we cant get Nocioni, I say go after Pietrus. Also Khrypa & Korolev would also be nice, but they are not the immediate answer to our SF needs.
That's not true....Nocioni controlls a lot of what he does if the Bulls don't decide to match an offer and keep him. He is not gonna do a sign and trade to a team he does not want to play for.
Isn't that because he was suffering for plantar faciitis. I mean, technically he had rebounded from it because he was out and about playing. But, we should all know that it nearly takes a whole off-season to rebound from it.
I too believe the Bulls sign and trade, but just not with San Antonio.
I don't believe Scola is proven enough for the Bulls.
They are not in any desperate need of any cap room flexibility, so I don't see them wanting Barry, Bonner, or any other of the Spurs.
If anything, like someone mentioned earlier, the Spurs have a better shot at Viktor K.
pretty much
I would LOVE to see him as a Spur next season, but again knowing the Spurs history this WON'T happen
Nocioni isn't old, but he's not that young. Considering that the Bulls have a wealth of talent at the 3 they might think twice about investing that heavily in him. While the Bulls have the upper hand with Nocioni's restricted free agent status, that's not as strong as it's made out to be. In any event, he's worth the Spurs tying up their MLE for 10 days or so.
Unless he really wants to play for the us because of championship possibilities and or Manu and Oberto being here I don’t think there is any way he would play for the MLE hes due to sign a much larger contract than that, the league has taken notice to how good this guy is.
He's not going to get Ginobili $.
IMO Nocioni will get a contract starting somewhere between $6-7 mil per, which means we will need to S&T for him. He will definitly get more than the MLE, & i dont think its worth tying our MLE up for 10 days, the Spurs will know if he has a chance at coming here or not. The Bulls will match a MLE offer for him, thats a no brainer, if anything to trade him down the line,, but they wont let him go that easily.
In the mean time, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
dont we have a ton of cash this coming free agency? how about gerald wallace? or am i re ed? f i'm re ed please feel free to let me know.
I personally think that Mikael Pietrus is a big possibility.
No we dont have a ton of cash, in fact we only have the MLE & the LLE to spend.
Bowen can't have too much left in the tank, so a young 3 who can do it all is a priority. Butler is our 5 of the future, Oberto will do an admirable job covering until then.
To have any chance of getting him we need to DEAL SCOLA to the Bulls - they need a low-post presence! His rights, and whatever else is necessary, is the only way we have a shot at Nocioni.
I agree, I think he is the 2nd or 3rd guy the Spurs will look to add this offseason.
I agree with everything you say Ruff, except the part about Butler being our 5 of the future. I think the Spurs believe they made a small mistake signing this guy & will try to trade him along with Barry & Scola to possibly land someone like Nocioni. Serviceable bigmen on small cheap contracts are hard to come by.
What makes you believe that Butler's a bust? Pop ALWAYS makes new players, especially youngsters, learn the system for a year before they play. (look at Oberto - useless last year, very useful this year) He's dropped 30-40lbs, looks svelt and strong, has breat hands around the basket, legit moves, and a nice leap for someone his size. If he has any bball IQ at all he should stick here... the only question is his bball IQ as far as I can see. Do you know something I don't? If so, do tell.
I think next year Butler will be the backup centre, Oberto will start and Fran will play when matchups suit (ie. not much!
oh i thought i read somewhere we had like 20mil or something like that. bah, whatever...it was probably another team.
I mean he isn't that bad(I wouldn't quite say he's a bust), especially since he is on a very chaep & short contract. I think the Spurs were hoping that he would come along quicker, they gave him alot of time to get conditioned & get to know the system, but he hardly ever played. I think they were hoping to get more out of him, they wouldn't give him a 3 year $6.5 mil deal if they didn't think he could contribute, but he contributed very little in a whole year. I think our center situation will probably be the same, Elson & Oberto as the primary bigs, unless Ely somehow gets resigned or Butler makes huge strides this summer.What makes you believe that Butler's a bust? Pop ALWAYS makes new players, especially youngsters, learn the system for a year before they play. (look at Oberto - useless last year, very useful this year) He's dropped 30-40lbs, looks svelt and strong, has breat hands around the basket, legit moves, and a nice leap for someone his size. If he has any bball IQ at all he should stick here... the only question is his bball IQ as far as I can see. Do you know something I don't? If so, do tell.
I think next year Butler will be the backup centre, Oberto will start and Fran will play when matchups suit (ie. not much!
In the letter He sent to the Argentinean team to let them know he will not be able to play for them, he mentions he suffered terrible pain, so much that after the play offs ended the Bulls's doctors decided to inmovilize his foot for 6 or 7 weeks.
What about James White? You guys don't think he can develop into a Bruce Bowen type player? I can see him replacing Bowen or maybe even Ginobili and being great especially the way our coaching staff develops young talent.
As for Nocioni, he would be nice to have but I would rather have Scola. I heard his contract is up and he is free to sign this summer.
Will Nocioni be a Spurs next year ?
You can always create a scenario where Nocioni can become a Spurs : Bulls not ready to invest money in Nocioni because of Deng and Thomas, Bulls are really high on Scola and they badly need a low post presence, Nocioni liking to play in SA with a contender and Manu/Fabricio...
It remains a scenario and the most likely case is that Nocioni will re-sign with Chicago. Spurs can try to get him this summer but they need to have a solid plan B because Spurs getting Nocioni is a reach. The worst thing for Spurs will be to spend the summer to go after SF like Nocioni and Wallace, who likely won't sign with Spurs , and having nobody at the end of the offseason.
Chapu in Spurs' uniform would be great but let's see some questionable reasons to get him there:
1. Yeah, Skills ... he's a terrific player perhaps a kind of Bruce Bowen, hard nose defender, abilty to score from 3's area and also penetrate, could play in two positions.
2. Why Paxson would let him go, since he was considered as the soul of the team; I see Bulls offereing something big (for Chapu) in terms of contract to set him in Chicago.
3. It'll be interesting for Spurs, this year we were called a Dirty team, with Chapu we could be called a Super dirty team.
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