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elliott made the all star team twice. ing twice. career 14 point a game scorer. not worthy. not by a long shot.
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Sean was a multiple time All Star, a lockdown defender in Bowen's class, an offensive creator and scorer, and hit the single most memorable shot in Spurs history. Case closed.
elliott made the all star team twice. ing twice. career 14 point a game scorer. not worthy. not by a long shot.
Two All Star games are more than AJ made. 14 ppg is more than AJ scored. Stop with the bitter routine, MB.
Avery?
Avery? Is that you?
looking at FSP for tips on how to beat the Spurs and stumbled across this thread?
you should just be grateful we still talk about you occasionally...fuhgeddabout having your number retired...
2 is crap how many did robinson and gervin make? 14 points a game is not special. your argument is pure emotion
How many AS games did Moore make? Silas?
irrelevant because according to the standards put forth by the anti-avery crowd neither should have had their numbers retired in the first place
You argue against yourself with the AS game stuff, saying Sean ONLY had two. AJ ONLY had zero, so by your argument that two isn't enough, AJ doesn't belong.
um yeah no . ever stop to think that i am arguing that the standards you are using to say aj is unworthy of a retired number pretty much make elliott unworthy too?
Nope. Sean's numbers all around were clearly better than AJ's. AJ was a journeyman PG who bounced all over the league. He happened to spend about half of his time here. Big woop.
This is all pretty academic, Marcus. Kori says that they're both on deck, Sean next year and AJ the year after. I don't have a problem with AJ going up, it just wouldn't be my choice.
they played different positions and for a great offensive player elliott only had 14 points a game thats weak. avery was no slouch in the scoring department. averys assists average was quite strong and that was his ing job. avery was here for the bulk of the 1990s and he was the team leader during that time
i dont know who you are calling marcus but thats not me. im greg
Geez, AJ#6. I don't think you need to take the endorsement of someone over AJ as a direct attack on AJ. Take a chill pill, bro. And then some Vicodin.
Johnny Moore was twice the point guard Avery ever was.Didn't he average like 10 assists a game?...His inclusion in the rafters still might have been emotion based because of his career getting cut short by Desert Fever but he was definitely better than AJ...
i take issue with those who argue that avery is unworthy because of some standard they made up which they do not hold other players to
yes moore and silas had their numbers retired of something other than they being hall of famers
I love Elliott they should definently retire his number.
top FIVE
yes i said it
top FIVE all time SPurs.
Robinson
Duncan
Gervin
Elliott
Silas.
In that order of best players to play here.
20 a game in 96, going to the all star game.
doing all this pretty much on zero knees.
Elliott >>>>>>>>> Avery Johnson
Sean Elliott was also if you forget, considered as good, maybe better than at the time Scottie Pippen.
Had Elliott been healthy?? It would be hard to argue that.
Elliott was a damn damn good player.
Its a great thing hes still involved in the organization and doing all the games again.
RETIRE 32!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes if only elliott would have stayed healthy there was no question he would have been a top notch and maybe a lil bit more flashy player then he was, his really only big noticiable flaw was a consistent jumper that has always pleagues the spurs until the recent years
so yes retire seans 32
It's not Elliot, Whot.
Apologies to TimVP and Blaze...there few crimes in life that are more unforgivable than forgetting an additional T...I apologize. .
Did I ever tell you guys that the extra T's on the end of my nick are for the extra T's int he names of Emmitt Smith and Sean Elliott?
It's true.
BS.
You've been spelling Elliott's name wrong since you were a troll on the WOAI boards back in 2001.
Nevermind.
Last edited by Johnny_Blaze_47; 11-30-2004 at 01:52 PM.
Yes...Sean>>>>>>>>>>AJ....by far.
on what basis
Sean was a balla before being a balla was cool (I don't mean having 18 wives, 45 kids, and bling bling everywhere, I mean he was lights out on the court and played fearless ball).
yes he deserves it. If it weren't for the Memorial Day Miracle the Spurs wouldn't have won their first ring.
The difference between AJ and Elliott is pretty clear, but I'll take it one step farther...
When push came to shove, Sean deferred some of his salary so the Spurs could build a practice facility. When push came to shove, AJ held out for an 8 million dollar nest egg for averaging 10 and 6. 'Nuff said.
I guess I have to quote myself. These ^^^ stats aren't good enough? His last two seaons even brought his average down, but he stilled played within his abilities and his role with the team. People need to separate the AJ and Elliott argument here. Elliott all alone diserves his #'s retirement.
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