You sure are blind. It is obvious who initiated the contact (Manu) and who flopped, especially in the first clip where he runs into Fisher. Take your Spurs rose colored glasses off. Manu is known as a flopper and it really takes away from the game for players that play it the way it is supposed to be played. Yes, I know Fisher does flop but not on that play. Manu is the king of floppers.
yeah there is no question the first one is a flop. but its not Ginobli's fault its the leagues and until they do something about it, why should somebody quit?
heck, if it gets the other team a technichal, its smart.
unless you're Devin Harris then its a pussy move around here
Wow... now we have proof that Queens baskeball is the most f*cked up.
what pictures or videos is everyone looking at. I saw the game and know what your talking about but I want to see it again.
Flopping is unfortunate and does deserve to be handled on the NBA level. Until its addressed.......its part of the game so deal with it and stop crying. Every team has at least one pro flopper. I also hate when a player jumps into another to draw a foul. Kobe is the king of that.
Hmmm flop. I can't say anything good and/or bad about it. But I'd recommend that there should be a stat FLPG (duh, Flops Per Game). Or to sound more politically correct for our PC Liberal friends, Charges Taken Per Game or CTPG. Man! My favorite Brazilian player, Anderson Varejao, is going to lead something in NBA.
Kings fans ing about flopping is unbelievable when not too long ago that's what they called defense and even more insane is a suns fan ing about it. On that first clip you can see Fish look at manu and give him a bump, manu sold it for sure but so did steve nash when horry bumped him. For the record Nash's flop was much better, it was so good the announcers thought horry actually punched him.
hey, so, umm, when you guys drafting Oden?
part deuce
The only thing better than the fact that Manu dominates games during winning time is the fact that it pisses off the morons.
You are blind!
Thank god is ours!Manu is the king of floppers.
Flopping is part of the game. Live with that.
OWNED.
LMFAO kingsfan started this thread!
on second look, it even looks like Gino tries to get out of the way at the last second, but Fisher was persistent to bump him.
Either way,
Everyone bringing up Divac has to look at who he was flopping against, Shaq. During Shaq's prime, the flop was one of the only ways to guard him. And when Divac flopped it wasn't as if there was no contact. Ginobli's flop against Fisher x2 and Kirilenko's flop against Barnes are examples of this new level of flop. Unless something is changed in the rules, this could ruin the game.
Divac flopped against everyone, not just Shaq. Probably one of the biggest ones in the league during his time.
out of the two, fisher was affected a lot more by the contact than manu. either both flopped, or there was pretty hard contact on that play.
you're ing re ed. look at it, you can see fisher bracing himself for the contact. that little crybaby wanted to run into ginobili.
Suns fans calling out floppers after the only thing their team does resembling defense is flop and "draw charges". Nice display of hypocrisy at its finest in this thread.
I have no problem with a player using deception to gain an advantage for his team. It happens in virtually every major sport, and those fans don't seem to and moan nearly as much as NBA fans do.
Baseball has a long history of it. Runners on second stealing signs, the hidden ball trick, catchers framing pitches to make them appear as strikes, the list goes on and on.
In the NFL, it is perhaps less common now that instant replay is used, but receivers still try to make balls that bounce appear as if they were caught, and quarterbacks will take dives if contact is made after a pass to get a "roughing the passer" call.
The "amount of contact" that justifies a foul in basketball is so subjective, I personally have no problem if a player wants to over-exagerate the effect that a given collision has on their body. It's a claculated risk, because if no call is made, the other player gains an advantage in positioning. Malone and Stockton did it, Vlade did it, Nash and Manu and Dirk do it... and it's something I can live with.
the Flop. That is all I have to say.
Vlade was the King (pun intended), he made an art out of it, now it looks like a bunch of rag dolls out on the court.
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