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    Being From Akron, OH and having went to St.. Vincent St. Marys...(a few years before lebron). From a neutral perspective, if there is one, all of my fellow colleagues down here who are huge tim duncan fans (and friends of) and San Antonio fans, think this is going to be a monster series and that the Cavs present some matchup probelms for the spurs. Its pretty unanamous down here that the series is going to go 7.
    your fellow colleagues are idiots. Spurs in 5 max

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    Why do Cavs fans feel like they have to come in here to say this "Cavs will win" bull ? To the original poster: What kind of match up problems do the Spurs face, other than the LBJ one? Just give me an answer, I need a laugh.
    I'm talking about the size that the Cavs have, they've got two legit centers and they can play big with guy like Gooden, Pavlovic, Marshall, James, none of whom scale in at any smaller than 6'7. They play great defense and they have range that goes on for miles. I think Cleveland will control the boards for the most part and contest shots. For good measure, Varajao is the best in the league at drawing charges so Parker and Ginobli will have to be constantly aware of that seeing as how they always rush in to try and draw contact. Cavs will take the Spurs out of their offense. That will be the key, take San Antonio out of their offense and with a guy like Lebron James he will find ways to win the tightly contested games.

    It isn't about individual matchups that has me optimistic, it is how each team looks against each other when they have their full teams out on the court. People said the same thing when Cleveland played Detroit, they said "Oh, Detroit has four legit scorers in Billups, Prince, Wallace, and Hamilton, and they play great defense as well, Cleveland has no chance." Well, they're saying the same thing now and it is going to be the same result. Cleveland will play big on San Antonio and they will have an even bigger advantage in that respect than they did against Detroit. Duncan is a dominant player, but again, he is one player and Cleveland has a big numerical advantage when it comes to big men to combat him with.

    I appreciate the fact that the Spurs have been near the top of the league for so long, however my counterpoint is that I think you guys aren't going to be ready for the beast that is Lebron James, and also I don't think you have done your research on the Cavs because you just are willing to assume that because they are the Cavs they'll roll over and die. Sorry Charlie, it ain't happenin'.

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    Nothing that hasn't already been debated in length. It doesn't matter that much until gametime now, but all of these games are going to be very close.
    I don't see your perimter players slashing to the paint like usual, They'll put lebron on ginobli or parker (probably parker in the second half) and just shut him out of any kind of drives completely....
    because lebronze's defense is so great There is no way in lebron can guard parker. Parker would torch his ass.

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    Nothing that hasn't already been debated in length. It doesn't matter that much until gametime now, but all of these games are going to be very close.
    I don't see your perimter players slashing to the paint like usual, They'll put lebron on ginobli or parker (probably parker in the second half) and just shut him out of any kind of drives completely....Duncan is not a MEGA scorer...and won't be against us, at least not as a scoring average for the series. All these games will be mid 80's to early 90's.
    Peace from the island, too bad working til five, beach is looking sweeeet.
    Wrong. If Cavs put LBJ on Ginobili they are doomed. They are doomed anyway since LBJ appears to be the only player capable of guarding either 2 players but they will make him pay for that and put him in foul trouble. Expect to see LBJ picking up easy fouls when assigned to guard them. IF they are smart, they will use LBJ very rarely for accomplished defense.

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    Detroit wouldn't beat Cleveland regardless, they lost their winning edge after their championship run and they turn on their coach the first chance they get. They're whiners.

    San Antonio doesn't scare me nearly as much as Detroit did as a Cavs fan, San Antonio doesn't have the defensive presence the same way Detroit did. Floppers like Ginobli don't scare anybody the way that guys like Prince and Wallace can with their ability to block shots. Duncan obviously is probably the biggest presence in the league in the paint, however he is only one guy and Lebron will take him to school one on one when he makes his move to the basket. The only reason Detroit had any success defending Lebron at all was because they attacked him with numbers.

    Detroit had some height across the board to combat Cleveland's size with, San Antonio doesn't have anything close to that. It doesn't matter what all these "experts" are saying, they just don't want to be the guy who steps out on a limb and picks the Cavs (San Antonio is the safe pick). It's matchups that make ballgames and Cleveland matches up much better against San Antonio than they do against Detroit, plain and simple. Cavs will control this series.
    Wow, how much is crack up there in Cleveland cause you are smoking quite a bit of it.

    Just because the calves beat the Spurs EARLY in the season when the Spurs where playing like crap does not mean the calves are going to beat the Spurs in the Finals.

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    ...I don't think you have done your research on the Cavs because you just are willing to assume that because they are the Cavs they'll roll over and die. Sorry Charlie, it ain't happenin'.
    You don't think the Spurs have done their research? A team with three recent les? Whose winning % is off the charts? Who have been legitimate contenders almost half of LeBron's life?

    If you're referring to fans, fine. Fans say what they want.

    If you're referring to Pop and his staff, to Duncan and his team, you're more ed up than I thought you were.

    GTFO.

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    Cleveland will play big on San Antonio and they will have an even bigger advantage in that respect than they did against Detroit. Duncan is a dominant player, but again, he is one player and Cleveland has a big numerical advantage when it comes to big men to combat him with.

    I appreciate the fact that the Spurs have been near the top of the league for so long, however my counterpoint is that I think you guys aren't going to be ready for the beast that is Lebron James, and also I don't think you have done your research on the Cavs because you just are willing to assume that because they are the Cavs they'll roll over and die. Sorry Charlie, it ain't happenin'.
    You will be disappointed. You got it all wrong...

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    You don't think the Spurs have done their research? A team with three recent les? Whose winning % is off the charts? Who have been legitimate contenders almost half of LeBron's life?

    If you're referring to fans, fine. Fans say what they want.

    If you're referring to Pop and his staff, to Duncan and his team, you're more ed up than I thought you were.

    GTFO.
    Not referring to the team, obviously they will be doing their homework. I'm referring to the fans.

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    Wrong. If Cavs put LBJ on Ginobili they are doomed. They are doomed anyway since LBJ appears to be the only player capable of guarding either 2 players but they will make him pay for that and put him in foul trouble. Expect to see LBJ picking up easy fouls when assigned to guard them. IF they are smart, they will use LBJ very rarely for accomplished defense.
    Lebron does play good D, and it has been exceptional in the postseason, obviously you haven't watched. He stays out of foul trouble in the first half
    and they usually put him on one of the top two offensive players in the second half. He HAS been shutting down very good offensive players.

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    He HAS been shutting down very good offensive players.
    like who?

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    Duncan is not a MEGA scorer...and won't be against us, at least not as a scoring average for the series.
    Tim in Playoffs (16 games): 23.2/11.1/3.1/3.3 in 36.7 minutes per game

    Bron in Playoffs (16 games): 25.8/8.3/8.3/0.5 in 45.1 minutes per game

    Per 48 minutes, Tim is outscoring LeBron 30.3 to 27.4 in the playoffs.

    btw, every other player that has a higher Per 48 than Tim left the playoffs in the first round, except for Amare.

    It would be unwise to discredit Tim as a scorer.

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    God i cant wait untill Thursday.

    I really cannot fathom how these cavs fans heads got so big over 1 series.


    You are in the east man...the EAST.

    if you have at least a .500 record you are considered top tier. You beat no one of any actual significance in the playoffs. You could maybe say detroit, but they were playing no where near the caliber of basketball they are capable of.

    please stop with the bull ...seriously.

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    Tim in Playoffs (16 games): 23.2/11.1/3.1/3.3 in 36.7 minutes per game

    Bron in Playoffs (16 games): 25.8/8.3/8.3/0.5 in 45.1 minutes per game

    Per 48 minutes, Tim is outscoring LeBron 30.3 to 27.4 in the playoffs.

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    Not referring to the team, obviously they will be doing their homework. I'm referring to the fans.
    Spurs fans, like Cavs/Mavs/Nuggets/Suns/Jazz fans will say what they want.

    But history has proven that Spurs fans will be right.

    And you better believe this team is prepared for your wonder-boy.

    It takes five.

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    I wouldn't call Tayshaun Prince exceptional however he pretty made him insignificant in that series. The mere fact that somebody on the other end has to guard Lebron means that they have got to be focused entirely on defense and it limits what they can do offensively. I wouldn't call that great defense, although Lebron has played very good defense and used his athleticism to make some big plays. I would say that Lebron is playing his best basketball of his young career in these playoffs, and he's already beaten a team with four legit scorers and good defense by and large by himself, so who's to say he can't do the same thing against a team with three legit stars as well?

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    Duncan doesn't have to score to push his team

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    The mere fact that somebody on the other end has to guard Lebron means that they have got to be focused entirely on defense and it limits what they can do offensively.
    Sir, id like you to meet bruce bowen. He is on our team solely for his defense.

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    I wouldn't call Tayshaun Prince exceptional however he pretty made him insignificant in that series.
    I would say that Lebron is playing his best basketball of his young career in these playoffs
    Enough said

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    If you watched they played lebron on kidd and billups extensively inthe second half. Lebron also did a great job guarding VC, Richard Jeferson, and Richard Hamilton. Lebron has been guarding a variety of scorers this post season and shutting them down.

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    If you watched they played lebron on kidd and billups extensively inthe second half. Lebron also did a great job guarding VC, Richard Jeferson, and Richard Hamilton. Lebron has been guarding a variety of scorers this post season and shutting them down.
    EAST EAST EAST

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    Cav's fans. You truly are failing to realise one very very VERY important factor.


    YOU PLAY BASKETBALL IN THE EAST


    It is like the JV league. There really isnt any compe ion there, im sorry to break it to you. Regardless of how much the media wants this to be the show of the century, lebron against the world..etc...you just really aren't in the same league.


    What is going to happen come thursday, when your team gets put back down to earth with a blow out 110 to 84 or something along those lines...

    Im curious what the excuses might be.

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    All I am hearing is the overconfidence of the Spurs shining through just like it did with the Pistons. You guys will be the first ones to eat your words, Cavs will make this an ugly series like I said and Lebron will take over. Cleveland is playing better defense than the Spurs are right now, they have a coach who knows the in's and out's of your playbook, they have Lebron to carry the load offensively. Cavs in 5, we're gonna shock the world!
    Better defense? Remember that the Spurs punked out the Suns whose offense punked your Cavs in the regular season.

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    Sir, id like you to meet bruce bowen. He is on our team solely for his defense.
    In your opinion, do you think the Spurs will put Bowen on Lebron?

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    In your opinion, do you think the Spurs will put Bowen on Lebron?
    of course they will. then they will double and triple if needed.

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    Come on guys, let the Cavs fans have their fun.

    Really... why do we care?

    We know that Manu, Tim and Tony > Lebron. Why try to convince CavFan? The Spurs will teach them soon enough.

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