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Throw in Millsap and you got a deal.
fab is not worth a big raise though, this dude better not think he's worth a 3 year deal, the most i'd give this old ass dude is a 2 year deal and about a million dollar raise.........
Throw in Millsap and you got a deal.
Butler's last year on his contract is a team option.
Naw, it's just a made up rumor. And a bad one at that.
maybe so, but Ely still played more minutes in march (scant though they were) while Butler didn't play a game.
Maybe they were just giving Ely a little look, but it's one Butler didn't get.
and don't forget the story Ludden put out there of Butler having to be chastised into helping carry a Spur off the court. The signals have been there and fairly clear about the Spurs not being happy with him.
But trading him and 33 for Collins of all people clearly isn't the best solution.
What trade of Butler + 33 to Utah even makes any sense?
we still need elson to (try) guard dirk
But Butler played five games in April and averaged 6.6 and 3.8 in 13 mpg.
Doubtfull.
I think the Spurs are higher on Butler than the media thinks.
Johnny Ludden needs to shut his trap.
Elson can't defend much of anyone. He's definitely not on the Dirk stopping crew.
Butler got the garbage time at the end of the year. And suited up ahead of Ely a couple times while the Spurs were still trying to win.
Ludden's Butler bashing became less and less as the season went on. Butler by the end of the year was one of Duncan's best friend on the team.
This makes no sense for the Spurs. Which is why it is only a rumor. Plus Jarron Collins in sucks.
A better made up rumor would be Butler and 33 to the Cavs for a future second round pick. The Cavs have a trade exception and don't have a pick in the draft.
If the Spurs are desperate to dump Butler's salary, that is a trade that makes way more sense than trading him to Utah for a guy with less potential and a worse contract
Butler played big minutes like Ely in the dead games of the last week when the other guys were resting.
the games before that were minor minutes, and iirc was at a time when Ely was hurt, though I could be wrong.
Gives us something to talk about though.
butler actually started the last 2 games of the season, and played 11 games overall....... the 2 games he started he avg. 11 points, and 9.5 rebounds
ely didn't get the benefit of starting....... it was probably because butler is better then ely...........
and where do you read your ??? i never read any of that stuff about butler being a problem..........
Why dump both Butler and the 33 for a future pick that won't be nearly this good?A better made up rumor would be Butler and 33 to the Cavs for a future second round pick. The Cavs have a trade exception and don't have a pick in the draft.
If the Spurs are desperate to dump Butler's salary, that is a trade that makes way more sense than trading him to Utah for a guy with less potential and a worse contract
agreed on Elson.
Elson can't defend much of anyone. He's definitely not on the Dirk stopping crew.
I'd rather have Mahinmi play and Elson be gone. Not that Mahinmi would be any good, but he too can run, dunk, miss rotations, block a shot once in a blue moon, and lose minutes to Oberto just as well, and for cheaper.
I think Butler is higher regarded by the team than the media and others think......
Before the trade deadline, Ludden wrote in a spurs notebook about the spurs not being so high on butler and shopping him around.
That's the cost of dumping a contract.
But the Spurs would be dumb to trade Butler now. He doesn't much that much and at worst, you can just let him go after this season. It's not like he has a multi-year contract that will eat into the Spurs longterm plans.
An intriguing trade might involve:
Ronnie Brewer = Jackie Butler + 33
I said it.
Much of the reason that Elson is a "steal and a keeper" is his salary (and his ability to run the floor). Unlike Butler, who can barely move, whose salary qualifies as a tax write off and whose personality makes Big Dog Robinson look bubbly.
Anyway, I don't know if this is just a rumor or some kind of wishful thinking on someone's part.
But anyway, the only rumors I've heard so far considering Butler (or any Spur) are about trading UP in the draft, not trading away a pick.
Beno, hit the road already.
For the person typing as Beno, Ludden is an idiot on some things, and hes way off base on how the Spurs feel about Butler.
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