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Giving up the 33 just to get rid of the Butler contract? no.
For what it's worth, "Daily Hoops" has a rumor that the Spurs are trying to move Jackie "Papers" Butler. Utah looks like a possibilty according to this source.
_________________Two rumors have been flying around in recent hours, the first is very minor and the second is even less important. The first rumor is that San Antonio is looking to move Jackie Butler, Butler was signed by the Spurs last off-season but he never made the rotation. Butler is seen as somewhat of a head case by the Spurs brass and they are looking to move his contract. One suitor for a possible deal with the Spurs is the Utah Jazz, Jazz Owner Larry Miller stated on a local radio show that the Jazz are looking at moving up in the second round of the draft. The Jazz and Spurs could possibly swap Butler and the 33rd pick in draft for Jarron Collins. Collins is a player that the Spurs have looked at twice, once in 2002 and last year before he re-signed with the Jazz. The second rumor is that the Dallas Mavericks are looking to trade the 60th pick in the draft, the only team which has even a little interest in this pick could be the Toronto Raptors, who don’t have any picks in this years draft. The Raptors trading for the last pick in the draft is highly unlikely however, since they recent traded two second round picks to Detroit and wouldn’t risk trading a pick beyond 2011.
http://dailyhoops.net/Rumors/June2007.html
Giving up the 33 just to get rid of the Butler contract? no.
Butler+#33 overall pick for Jarron Collins!
the express had reported before the all-star break that the Spurs were looking to move Butler, so it should be expected for him to still be on the block.
re: Collins
sure the salaries match, but no cutting option on Collins in summer 08, so if the 08 plan is still breathing Collins doesn't help. Besides, giving up the 33 just to get Collins? Seems like a waste to me.
I don't even know where to begin.
You can begin next season in Cleveland.
why would they want to move a 22 year old that has a load of potential with a small contract??? that's just ing re ed to even think about.......i hate the media, they bring up some stupid ass
and why would we give up him and #33 pick for a ing bum?? we might have well just kept rasho
I still bang more chicks than you though.
Touche!
Maybe he doesn't have as much potential as people think. He was a fat guy who put up okay numbers with a lot of garbage buckets on a terrible team A n inexperienced system-wise Oberto ran Butler's butt off in a game in 06, he made Oberto look like Elson.
Ludden is the one iirc who reported earlier this year on how the Spurs were looking to move him. If Ludden puts it out there, consider it an officically sanctioned story. Maybe it was done to motivate Butler, but remember, the Spurs had such little faith in Butler that they traded mid-season for Melvin Ely. That should verify how little they care for him.
I suppose the best way to look at it was they gambled on offering contracts to two RFAs, hoping that one would pan out. So far one has, somewhat. The other (Butler) was a calculated risk.
The only thing I find undesirable is having to give up the 33 just to get another bottom of the bencher in Collins. No need to do that.
Regardless of the Spurs offseason transactions concerning the frontcourt, Jackie Butler should get at least 10mpg next season.
anybody heard anything about whether Butler would be in the summer league? Only thing I've seen was when announcements were first made for the Vegas league only James White and Mahinmi were listed.
Butler pulled out of summer league for the Knicks last year because of his free agent status at the time, and considering his lack of time this season, he should be on that team if he's still a Spur.
Um wasn't the Ely trade for cap reasons?
The trade for Ely was about cutting salary. I can see the team having to make a move like this to clear room to pay Oberto and possibly bring Scola. Fabricio's definitely earned a raise, and would be crazy if he didn't opt out.
That would be the dumbest trade in Spurs history. If the Spurs think Butler sucks after next season, they can just not pick up his player option.
Why would the Spurs give up the 33 pick for a guy who will be a third string center at best and is under contract for the next two seasons?
No part of the trade makes sense.
With Elson looking like a steal and Oberto rising from the dead this year, Butler may be the odd man out. He also has a relatively large contract for a taxi squad guy.
The Spurs have enough intriguing players (and draft picks) now that roster spots are becoming precious. Horry's coming back and Elson and Oberto are keepers. Butler may be baggage they can no longer afford to carry.
This move add $600K to the books and another fully guaranteed season.
i can the spurs trading butler for collins since collins actually makes 500,000 dollars less then butler over the next 2 years, but i can't see them giving up that 33rd pick for basicly nothing.
ludden is a bum too lol, i don't care, i hate the media, they are all full of and half the time never right...........
and the part i put in bold is what makes this whole rumor full of ........ there is no way you give up a legit center and the 33rd pick in a deep draft up for a peice of that ain't nowhere as good as his twin brother, and that's pretty sad cause his brother sucks complete ass too
, the team must be really sour on him then. While Jackie Butler most likely sucks, we already know 100% that Jarron Collins does.
Collins is ing horrible. I can see them maybe moving Butler, but not Butler and a beautiful high second round pick for a bum like Collins.
Obviously it takes little to run an NBA rumor site - just make up. It's fun reading the quoted section above and figure out at what point the fantasy starts. Shopping Butler? Sure. For this -ass deal? Nuh-uh.
I can't believe you said Elson was a steal and a keeper.
He sucks.
That could be the case. But this trade is the opposite of what the Spurs would do. To shed Butler's contract, why would they trade for a guy who makes more money with more guaranteed years?
And on top of that, give up 33.
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