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  1. #26
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    Well, I would go w/a custom home builder if I were you. It just depends on how much you are willing to spend. You can even be your own home builder.

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    oops

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    They just don't make 'em with Ray Ellison quality anymore.

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    They just don't make 'em with Ray Ellison quality anymore.

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    Ryland had a superior reputation when we bought it....I don't know what the happened, and we personally have no big problems with our home.

    Although, I bet a lot of this wouldn't even be an issue you if they replaced their current customer service manager ... he's an asshole.


  6. #31
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    Ryland had a superior reputation when we bought it....I don't know what the happened, and we personally have no big problems with our home.

    Although, I bet a lot of this wouldn't even be an issue you if they replaced their current customer service manager ... he's an asshole.

    And keep knocking on wood!!!

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    I don't see a problem at all.

    The builder was nice enough to throw in a free waterfall in the backyard, what else do they want?

    I'm guessing that there is at least 5-15 feet of fill in that entire subdivision. It seems pretty clear that the entire house is sinking.

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    I'm guessing that there is at least 5-15 feet of fill in that entire subdivision. It seems pretty clear that the entire house is sinking.

    If you walk into the house, it actually looks like the whole back end is falling off into the back yard.

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    Spurs are Lottery Bound. SequSpur's Avatar
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    Ryland is okay, but they have/had customer service mgmt issues. Our customer service rep. is cool but that doesn't make a dent in our expectations...

    our problem was we sold our house super quick (1 day), we were renting back from the new buyer, then 3 months later when our house was ready, we gave notice, there was a few days left and there was alot of lollygagging going on by Ryland's crews, and we were pressured to hurry up and close and get in and they promised to fix things in a matter of hours/days. Well, most of the stuff happened, but some of it didn't and of course our subjective expectations were not met and we got pissed...

    we did not give a good survey of course. we could've went custom, but I've heard frickin nightmares about that also. If you want to risk waiting years before your house gets done, it's possible when you go custom. We are very happy with our house, layout, etc. We just had super expectations going from $70K to > $200K and not understanding the current business of housebuilding... our other house we bought new 12 years ago. It was through Rayco and from what I remember we only had to call them out once for a plumbing issue.

    It's all about expectations.... the problem with houses is the way the purchasing is set up... the le , the insurance, the taxes, it's got damn stupid. it should be a little more than a car but it's a fricking lunatic circus. to many smoking mirrors, etc.

    then you get in the house and really? is there a warranty? is there an expectation? there are agencies, etc. that are out there.. but what the are they gonna do?

    Next time, I will never close on a house until that er is completely finished and surveyed/inspected, etc.

    Anybody go with Lennar? That was our other option,

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Lennar(US Homes), Pulte, Centex, KB, etc. are all the same: Quan y over quality.

    Just to give you an example, one of the mid-major builders around these parts isn't paying any of his trades until the houses close. You think the subs working on those houses are doing a good job knowing they aren't getting paid for months?

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    Pulte is bad as KB...they've got neighborhoods EVERYWHERE.

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    Ryland homeowners should contact my and Johnny Blaze's favorite website http://www.consumerist.com/

    Big business doesn't like bad publicity.

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    Yes ... the guy with the biggest problem is 3 doors down. It's like a war zone over here.
    I'm sorry to hear that. Before reading the thread I would have bought a Ryland house before any of the other builders mentioned in my family's price-range. (We do a lot of looking at model homes on our free time...)

    They just don't make 'em with Ray Ellison quality anymore.
    That was amazing. My parents live in one right now and hate it.

    Pulte, Centex, KB, etc. are all the same: Quan y over quality.
    And I'd like to say good things about Pulte because I'm related to the family, but I can't. Centex is nowhere near where it used to be. i.e- Shavano Ridge-esque.

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    My brother bought their new Pulte home in Canyon Springs about a month after we bought ours here ... and they have that still hasn't been fixed, either.

    Once you're in there, they don't really seem to give a .

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    I've heard frickin nightmares about that also. If you want to risk waiting years before your house gets done, it's possible when you go custom. We are very happy with our house, layout, etc. We just had super expectations going from $70K to > $200K and not understanding the current business of housebuilding... our other house we bought new 12 years ago. It was through Rayco and from what I remember we only had to call them out once for a plumbing issue.
    Mine's a custom and it took about 9 months. I felt very fortunate because the construction supervisor- who happened to be a woman- was as picky as I am. We both kept on top of everything and so by the time we had the walk-through, there was nothing to do ent. Now granted this was 10 years ago.

    The advantage that I have felt has been dealing with any of the contractors who did work on the house. I have over the years called them directly because I was given a list of all their names and numbers, and they have come out and done a few things for me for free even a few years later.

    Lennar bought out my builder when they came into San Antonio.

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    My dad still lives in the Ray Ellison home he bought in 1973. It's held up pretty well for a piece of cardboard crap.

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    Big business doesn't like bad publicity.
    There are always news crews in the neighborhood these days ... which is the only reason Ryland seems to be stepping up after almost a year of blowing people off. All of the sudden they are actually receiving the emails, voicemails, whatever ... and respond!!

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    Definitive Custom homes is on my short list when we start to build, mainly because I love what they do with their Master bathrooms

    However, the way our lot is, we may have to have plans drawn up as we really want to take advantage of the view.

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    My dad still lives in the Ray Ellison home he bought in 1973. It's held up pretty well for a piece of cardboard crap.
    I'm pretty sure their's is about that old, but they're renting, so they can't fix anything. The roof is leaky, the carpet has no padding, the second bathtub pipping doesn't work and the foundation is just a piece of . The owner basically leaves them on their own so it's "whatever you want." The house looks nice (well, aside from the roof that needed to be replaced in 1989), on the outside, but the inside is crap.

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    We still have another 3 months until 1 year walk through ... but maybe I should start looking for things to fix now while they are feeling generous.

    In 105 houses, 96 (and counting) have cracked driveways ... from all of the independant engineering reports these homeowner's have gotten, they found none of them are up to code (4 inches thick) ... they are 3 inches maximum. We'll be in that line.

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    There are always news crews in the neighborhood these days ... which is the only reason Ryland seems to be stepping up after almost a year of blowing people off. All of the sudden they are actually receiving the emails, voicemails, whatever ... and respond!!
    Yeah, but that's mostly local, right? I still think that one dude from your neighborhood should contact them. It can't hurt.

  23. #48
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    I called the Ryland CEO directly, I even said I was his brother and it was a family emergency.. His assistant wouldn't let me close to him... Frickin beyotch.

  24. #49
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    The big-time activist lady that took KB Homes to school is heavily involved with our neighbors and Live Oak city council already....she's pretty feisty.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Definitive Custom homes is on my short list when we start to build, mainly because I love what they do with their Master bathrooms

    However, the way our lot is, we may have to have plans drawn up as we really want to take advantage of the view.

    You can get a copy of the print of any house you like in your neighborhood for a small fee($40 around these parts) from the city. Then, take it to an architect.

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