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    The more I think about it and the more I read...Jon Daniels is in a really bad position to this up. If he jerks Schuerholz around too long and ends up losing out on a good Braves deal, he could end up with an Angels team that can then lower their price for Tex (taking out Saunders from the deal for say, Santana).

    Word is Daniels (while it's a good move to aim high) is simply reaching for the stars with Gagne (asking for two star prospects from BOS and NYY).

    This could backfire badly if they end up holding Gagne and not getting good value for Tex.
    Theres nothing wrong with holding Gagne. He will resign in Texas.

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    07/29/2007 9:25 PM ET
    Notes: Teixeira watch continues
    Rangers try to go about their business as trade winds swirl
    By T.R. Sullivan / MLB.com

    KANSAS CITY -- According to sources, the Rangers are talking to the Arizona Diamondbacks about first baseman Conor Jackson, outfielder Carlos Gonzalez and a pitching prospect for Mark Teixeira.
    The Atlanta Braves remain interested in Teixeira, but there are some health issues with Matt Harrison, the Double-A left-handed pitcher that would be part of the return package. Harrison has a strained shoulder and has been shut down. A Major League source said that does not kill the potential Braves deal, but complicates it.

    The Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees and New York Mets are pushing hard for closer Eric Gagne. A source described the situation as "pretty warm."

    The Red Sox are concerned about their setup relief and the Yankees are concerned about Mariano Rivera. Gagne can veto a trade with the Red Sox and insisted that nobody has talked to him about any deals.

    "I haven't heard anything," Gagne said after the Rangers' 10-0 loss to the Kansas City Royals on Sunday.

    That's the latest information that's surfaced as the Rangers drew to within less than two days of the trade deadline.

    The Diamondbacks are showing serious interest, and the Rangers have been scouting Gonzalez, a 21-year-old outfielder who is hitting .270 with 15 home runs and 59 RBIs at Double-A Mobile. But a deal with any club does not appear imminent.

    The Angels are willing to offer first baseman Casey Kotchman and pitcher Joe Saunders but have not satisfied the Rangers on the third player in the deal. All anybody knows for certain is that Teixeira was in the Rangers' lineup Sunday, but nobody is really sure if it was for the last time. Manager Ron Washington assumed it was not.

    "I haven't heard anything in two days, so things must have cooled down," Washington said.

    More likely is that general manager Jon Daniels and his lieutenants have bunkered down in Arlington working the phones. The deadline is 3 p.m. CT on Tuesday, and Teixeira and Gagne appear to be the most talked about Rangers.

    Shortstop Michael Young said the players' focus has been on the field and the approaching deadlines is not weighing on them.

    "It's not," Young said. "This happens every year. Every team goes through this at the deadline, whether you're a contender and wondering what players you're going to get, if not, what players are going to leave. It hasn't been a point of conversation."

    Teixeira is the biggest name. He was the Rangers' first-round pick in the 2001 First-Year Player Draft and has been in the big leagues since the beginning of the 2003 season.

    "Obviously with the guys that have been here awhile, the idea of Tex being gone strikes a nerve," Young said. "We've been through a lot together. I've made a point of saying I want to go through my whole career playing with Tex and Hank [Blalock]. We've been together a long time and I know what they bring to the table."

    Teixeira has stopped commenting about the possibility of being traded and went about his normal routine Sunday, which included organizing Sunday chapel services.

    "I don't even think about it," Washington said. "If it happens, it happens. Of course it will change the lineup, but I don't worry about it."

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    Theres nothing wrong with holding Gagne. He will resign in Texas.
    He's not going to be happy with a gutted roster that's building for the future. My guess is somebody will offer him a decent deal on a mid-level team next season - or DanHicks will break the bank and offer him insane money to stay.

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    Possible Rangers 2008 Starting Line Up..

    1B- Jarrod Saltalamacchia
    2B- Ian Kinsler
    SS- Michael Young
    3B- Hank Blalock
    C- Gerald Laird
    RF- Frank Catalanotto
    CF- Torii Hunter
    LF- Marlon Byrd
    DH- Sammy Sosa

    Relievers:

    Joaquin Benoit
    Akinori Otsuka
    Frank Francisco
    Eric Gagne
    C.J. Wilson
    Ron Mahay
    Wes Littleton or Willie Eyre

    Thats a good Lineup and one of the best bullpens in baseball. If we can get 2 starters to go with McCarthy, Millwood, and Loe; the Rangers can have a decent team.

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    Tex and a reliever (praying it's Wilson, would be pleased if it's Gagne or Mahay) in a Braves uni by Wednesday?

    Excuse me, I need to go lie down.
    The Rangers WILL NOT trade C.J.

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    How serious are the talks with the Diamondbacks? Their GM was on a few broadcasts ago and said Arizona wasn't very active. Well, Jackson, a top-20 prospect and another mid-level prospect begs to differ.

    With the potential of Gonzalez and the ballpark size aiding Jackson's power numbers, that's a of a package.

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    The Rangers WILL NOT trade C.J.
    No , hence the word "praying."

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    This Justin Upton must be one of a player.

    The Diamondbacks deal would be the one I would take. Conor Jackson has mega talent, and just hasn't found it in Zona.

    I wouldn't trade Teixera at all personally, but if the Rangers are gonna be dumb s and trade another all star, might as well get something for him.

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    This Justin Upton must be one of a player.

    The Diamondbacks deal would be the one I would take. Conor Jackson has mega talent, and just hasn't found it in Zona.

    I wouldn't trade Teixera at all personally, but if the Rangers are gonna be dumb s and trade another all star, might as well get something for him.
    Seriously, do you know anything about baseball? How are the Rangers dumb s for trading Tex? His value is at an all-time high as competing teams want to add power to make a playoff push. Tex has already burned bridges in Arlington and the Rangers have no chance of extending him. So you get two or three players and build for the future instead of keeping a malcontent for another year then letting him go in free agency and getting compensatory draft picks.

    Let's see... a package of MLB-ready Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus and a pitching prospect or draft picks that may never pan out or even sign with Rangers ...

    Dumb s, indeed.

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    Seriously, do you know anything about baseball? How are the Rangers dumb s for trading Tex? His value is at an all-time high as competing teams want to add power to make a playoff push. Tex has already burned bridges in Arlington and the Rangers have no chance of extending him. So you get two or three players and build for the future instead of keeping a malcontent for another year then letting him go in free agency and getting compensatory draft picks.

    Let's see... a package of MLB-ready Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus and a pitching prospect or draft picks that may never pan out or even sign with Rangers ...

    Dumb s, indeed.

    It should be a pretty easy call to see, I don't understand anyone that wants the Rangers to win advocating keeping Tex given the cir stances.

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    The Diamondbacks aren't trading Upton for a position player. If they do, it'll be in an attempt to get Santana.

    One scout recently said he's the most untradeable prospect in the last decade.

    They aren't trading a cheap Upton for the rights to pay Tex 12 million then lose him to free agency.

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    IT'S DONE, FINALLY!

    Tex to the Braves, along with Mahay for Salty, Andrus and TWO pitching prospects.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7074846

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    IT'S DONE, FINALLY!

    Tex to the Braves, along with Mahay for Salty, Andrus and TWO pitching prospects.
    they better be in good. the fact that they're as yet unnamed probably speaks otherwise though.

    this is only a good deal if one of those pitching prospects is worth a damn.

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    Eesh! Two pitching prospects? Hopefully B-level guys.

    Regardless, good pickup for the Braves. Power in the middle of the lineup that's possible to keep long-term and an upgraded bullpen.

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    Maybe I can finally get some work done today!

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    Time to ship out Sosa. Since we have Saltalamadingdong, can we get Laird the out too?

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    Let's hope the pitching prospects yield at least one productive, consistent starting pitcher.

    I was hearing some "experts" around MLB saying that they would have traded Tex for Salty straight up. Is this kid that good? I've never seen him play.

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    I was hearing some "experts" around MLB saying that they would have traded Tex for Salty straight up. Is this kid that good? I've never seen him play.
    He's supposed to be a younger Tex who can also play catcher. But to trade a proven All-Star straight up for a prospective All-Star is just stupid. Good trade by Daniels as long as one of those pitchers is good.

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    I was hearing some "experts" around MLB saying that they would have traded Tex for Salty straight up. Is this kid that good? I've never seen him play.
    Considering the situation with Tex, it might have been worth it.

    It'd have been robbery if Schuerholz could have convinced Daniels to do it, but it would have been a little fair.

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    Time to ship out Sosa. Since we have Saltalamadingdong, can we get Laird the out too?
    The Cubs are stockpiling catchers for some reason. Send him there.

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7074846

    Braves set to acquire Teixeira from Rangers
    Ken Rosenthal / FOXSports.com
    Posted: 2 minutes ago

    The Braves are on the verge of acquiring Rangers first baseman Mark Teixeira.

    The deal is done, pending a review of the medical records of the players involved, according to major-league sources.

    The Braves will receive Teixeira and left-handed reliever Ron Mahay.

    The Rangers will receive catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Class A shortstop Elvis Andrus and two pitching prospects.

    One of the prospects is believed to be Class AA left-hander Matt Harrison.

    The Rangers had been split on whether they wanted Harrison, in part because he recently experienced shoulder trouble.

    However, Harrison underwent an MRI that revealed no damage, and the Rangers evidently are willing to take him despite their concerns.

    The addition of Teixeira, 27, would dramatically transform the Braves' lineup, giving them a second switch-hitter with power to join third baseman Chipper Jones.

    The Braves rank fifth in the National League in runs scored, but their on-base/slugging percentage at first base is the worst in the majors.

    Teixeira, who does not become a free agent until after next season, also would give the Braves lineup protection against the likely departure of center fielder Andruw Jones as a free agent this off-season.

    The Angels also made a strong bid for Teixeira, offering first baseman Casey Kotchman and left-hander Joe Saunders. They were willing to include a third player, but not at the level the Rangers were seeking, sources said.

    The Diamondbacks and Dodgers also had been interested in Teixeira, but neither was willing to trump the Braves' proposal.

    Saltalamacchia, 22, is perhaps the single best player the Rangers were offered, a switch-hitting catcher with power who offers more upside than Kotchman.

    The Braves were reluctant to part with "Salty," who also can play first base. But they would have no place to play him if they had Teixeria through '08; catcher Brian McCann is signed through 2012 with a club option for '13.

    Teixeira is earning $9 million this season, and his salary could rise to $12 million next season in his final year of arbitration.

    It is almost certain he would not sign a contract extension before becoming a free agent; his agent, Scott Boras, prefers his clients' values to be determined on the open market.

    However, Teixeira attended Georgia Tech in Atlanta and might be open to signing with the Braves long-term.

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    Saltalamacchia is a heck of a player. He has the potential to be a 40 HR hitter. Really! He has a great arm behind the plate. He's only 22. Elvis Andrus is an 18 year old phenom. He is a speady mofo. He makes errors and is struggling in high A ball, but remember he is 18. If he has a slump now, he'll now how to get out of it in the future. He has a great glove, but his errors come from rushing the through. They compare his glove to Omar Visquel, yes the good one, and thinks his bat possibly can come up to a Miguel Tejada type player. Congrats Texas, your now my second favorite team, behind the Braves of course!

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    Yeah. Securing Andrus might have been the best part for Daniels.

    Nearly everybody is of the opinion that Salty will make an immediate impact, but many also expect Andrus to do the same in the future.

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    Harrison is a good pitcher. He has good control and a nack for getting out of jams. He started for the Double A all star game.

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