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just read him and Gagne supposedly to the Braves for Saltalamacchia and the stud SS Elvis Andrus.
Also a starter thrown in.
Sounds like a deal to me.
But damn, both Teixera and gagne?
Madness.
Rangers in talks with several teams about Teixeira
By Buster Olney
ESPN The Magazine
Executives with other teams believe that the Texas Rangers are definitely intent on trading first baseman Mark Teixeira before the July 31 trade deadline, which would make Teixeira the most prominent player dealt.
The rival executives say that the Rangers' demands for Teixeira have come down bit by bit. In addition, the Rangers feel they can get one or more of the targeted prospects that they can ask for from the targeted teams. However, the Rangers dispute the notion that their price is coming down or that it's a slam dunk that they will trade Teixeira.
At the outset of the Teixeira trade talks, for example, the Rangers had insisted the Yankees include either Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes, one of the Yankees' top pitching prospects, and had asked the Dodgers for three top prospects. They had asked the Red Sox for pitcher Clay Buchholz and center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury.
The Angels, Braves and Giants are also involved in talks for Teixeira.
Teixeira, who will be eligible for salary arbitration after making $9 million this season, has refused to talk about the possibility of being traded.
"I'm done talking about it," Teixeira said Tuesday before the Rangers played a doubleheader against Seattle, repeating what has become a daily response.
At the start of the eight-game homestand Thursday, when Teixeira played in Arlington for the first time since going on the disabled list June 9, he said he was focused on the game.
"I know there is a business side of baseball. There is a playing side of baseball, and that is what I'm going to concentrate on the last two months of the season," he said last week. "Until someone tells me otherwise, I'm a Ranger. I love playing here."
But Teixeira, the No. 5 overall pick as a third baseman out of Georgia Tech in 2001, has also expressed his desire to play for a winning team. The Rangers didn't finish better than third in the AL West with only one winning record his first four seasons, and they're in last place again this year.
Any team that acquires Teixeira would get more than a rent-a-player for the rest of this season. While Teixeira will be eligible for salary arbitration, he can't become a free agent until after 2008.
Only Ralph Kiner, Albert Pujols and Eddie Mathews hit more than the 140 homers that Teixeira had in his first four major league seasons. He had at least 33 homers and 110 RBIs in each of the past three.
Teixeira went into Tuesday hitting .302 with 13 home runs and 47 RBIs despite missing 27 games because of a strained left quadriceps muscle sustained running out a ground ball. The Rangers were 16-11 when he was out of the lineup after he played in a team record 507 consecutive games.
"If Mark is not here, we are going to miss him because of what he brings to the table. This guy is a great ballplayer and can make a difference in a game," manager Ron Washington said Tuesday. "I don't think you can ever say because we won when Mark wasn't in the lineup that the team is better without him. This team is not better without him.
"My only statement to that is, we'll adjust," Washington said. "Because if Mark leaves here, we're getting something for him. So we'll adjust."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2947494
just read him and Gagne supposedly to the Braves for Saltalamacchia and the stud SS Elvis Andrus.
Also a starter thrown in.
Sounds like a deal to me.
But damn, both Teixera and gagne?
Madness.
If JD does that deal he should just leave now.
I agree. For an All-Star level (and potential superstar) 1B, and the hottest closer in baseball, Jon Daniels better be preparing to lube up and ass whoever is willing to sell their future for wins right now.
We wont trade Gagne. We will resign him (he wants to stay). Tex is probably heading to the Braves. Atlanta likes Mahay. I love Ron, but in this deal you have to pull it. This is how the deal may work out according to the DMN..
1B Mark Teixeira
RP Ron Mahay
For
C/1B Jarrod Saltalamacchia
SP Kyle Davies or SP Matt Harrison
IF Elvis Andrus
Theres more speculation in that article about possible deals with both Los Angeles teams. If the Rangers can get James Loney and Andre Either plus a good prospect pitcher, I'm willing to deal Tex and Gagne to the Dodgers.12:06 AM CDT on Thursday, July 26, 2007
By EVAN GRANT / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]
With less than a week to go before the trading deadline, the Rangers are heavily involved in talks with Atlanta on a deal that could send Mark Teixeira to the Braves, major league sources confirmed Wednesday.
The deal, however, could also expand into a blockbuster. Both Atlanta and the Los Angeles Dodgers, sources said, would like to get Teixeira and a reliever from the Rangers. Eric Gagne and Ron Mahay are of interest to Atlanta; the Dodgers are more interested in Gagne and Joaquin Benoit. Further complicating the scenario is the Rangers' interest in keeping Gagne on a long-term deal. The club and Gagne remain conversant about such a possibility.
The foundation for a deal that would send Teixeira to Atlanta would be 22-year-old catcher-first baseman Jarrod Saltalamacchia, considered the Braves' top prospect. It would likely also include a young pitcher, potentially either 23-year-old right-hander Kyle Davies or 21-year-old left-hander Matt Harrison, and infielder Elvis Andrus. The Braves, however, are not likely to part with lefty Jo-Jo Reyes.
Heres the article..
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....aeab0031.html
THAT.
I don't give a how good Saltalamadingdong is. Andrus is nice, but we've already got him, his name is Joaquin Arias!!!!! If we don't get TOP LEVEL young pitching prospects then NO ING DEAL. Davies SUCKS in the majors and Harrison has the potential to be an okay 5th starter AT BEST.
BULL DEAL. Give me that Dodgers trade any day over this one.
Daniels better be working this . If he does this trade he's officially the biggest dumb in the major leagues.
If the Rangers can get Jo-Jo Reyes or Joey Devine from the braves along with Saltalamacchia, you have to do it. Remember, Tex WILL NOT RESIGN HERE! You might as well get value for him and Reyes and Saltalamacchia would be fantastic.
Nobody is giving up TOP LEVEL pitching prospects. Nobody.
The Rangers will never sniff Kershaw, Chamberlain, Hughes and probably not Reyes either.
Saltalamacchia is wanted by MANY teams. The Rangers can easily flip him to somewhere else for prospects and/or major league-ready talent. Ian Snell is a name that comes up quite often, as the Pirates are desperate for Salty but don't have the right trade chips to pry him from Atlanta.
I think JD is already the biggest dumb in the major leagues, this deal would lead me to believe that Daniels might be slightly re ed.
You guys are a bunch of ignorant assholes. Dont judge someone before you see them.. I hope we pull this deal...yall will ..Salty will tear it up and we will have a good SP in Davies. No one will give us a top pitching prospect..it wont happen. were more likely to get a top pitching prospect for Saltalamacchia than teixeira.
the guy already can't pitch for in Atlanta, he's gonna redefine the word "suck" in Arlington.
we have an elite-level hitter and we can't get a single top piching prospect for him? Salty...with Rudy and our stadium we'll ALWAYS have solid hitting no matter who we put in the lineup, it's the ING HORRENDOUS PITCHING THAT'S BEEN KILLING US FOR OVER A DECADE NOW.
if you think trading Tex for a top hitting prospect and some slap pitcher is the right move, you're the ignorant one here.
Davies is still a project. But like Devine, Reyes, and Harrison, at least their young, good prospects, something we dont really have. Davies would be our best minor league pitcher and is an upgrade over McCarthy and Padilla. We wont get a top pitching prospect. It wont happen. But Salty is one of the top prospects in all of baseball. He would tear up Arlington. Tex will walk. You might as well get good(average in your mind) pitching prospects than nothing or some draft picks.
we have an elite-level hitter and we can't get a single top piching prospect for him? Salty...with Rudy and our stadium we'll ALWAYS have solid hitting no matter who we put in the lineup, it's the ING HORRENDOUS PITCHING THAT'S BEEN KILLING US FOR OVER A DECADE NOW.
Davies has shown signs of potential..
MAY 22 vs NYM
8 IP
6 H
1 ER
2 BB
3 SO
He also has hit a 3 run homer this season.
Ok, do the deal JD....
Bring in more bats and ty arms, lets continue the suckage for the next 10 years.
I'd do that deal.
/ Braves fan.
// Happy dance.
A lot of your fellow Braves fans would not. They consider Tex "taking on salary" and don't think you should both give up prospects AND take on salary. That is some backwards thinking, IMHO but the Braves are in a weird predicament right now, as they really do need to win NOW, it seems.
Um, they can go themselves.
Don't spend money stupidly, but if they want to spend money on a guy like Tex, give up some prospects from a system stocked with them being taught by good coaches and get some bullpen help, so be it.
if gagne does get traded.....
damn im going to miss those shades....
Angels have offered Casey Kotchman and Joe Saunders for Teixeira. Although I hate dealing within the division, I really like this deal. Rosenthal reported this on Fox baseball, but said JD is still looking for another player or two.
I would deal Tex for Joe Saunders and a prospect. Joe is 4-0 with a 3.16 ERA. He will be an ace in a year or two. Looks like it wont happen though. I expect Tex to go to Atlanta.
Ok ESPN.com says the Braves have sent in a formal offer for teixeira
Tex and a reliever (praying it's Wilson, would be pleased if it's Gagne or Mahay) in a Braves uni by Wednesday?
Excuse me, I need to go lie down.
Stark's report:
MARKET REPORT
The deadline clock is ticking louder by the hour. The Rangers continue to call around, trying to stoke the market. But sooner or later -- and we'd bet sooner -- our hunch is that Teixeira is going to end up exactly where most people have been predicting he'd end up: in Atlanta. Reports of the Diamondbacks and Dodgers charging back in over the weekend appear to have been overstated.
The Angels, meanwhile, haven't budged since they tweaked their offer late last week to include pitcher Joe Saunders in addition to Casey Kotchman. And the Braves have been telling other clubs they think they've made a good enough offer, and they shouldn't have to sweeten it.
The buzz Sunday was that the names of Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Elvis Andrus have been settled on in the Atlanta package -- but there's a chance the teams could agree on either a different pitching prospect than the much-discussed Matt Harrison or decide the third player should be a pitcher to be named later.
So now it's time for the Rangers to close this deal, because yet another front-office man who is close to Braves GM John Schuerholz predicted Sunday that Schuerholz won't wait much longer, saying: "This is just my gut feel, from knowing John for so long. But I'll be very surprised if he lets this thing get past midday Monday. Midday on Monday leaves him 24-28 hours to go complete another deal, using one or more of the same players. And I can just about guarantee you he's working on something else."
The Angels, on the other hand, don't appear to be pursuing any other deal of consequence. They just want to know whether this one is getting done or not. Most clubs understand why Texas GM Jon Daniels has taken his time on this, to make sure he makes the best trade he can, in what could be the defining moment of his tenure. But by Sunday, other teams' patience with Texas' slow pace on all its potential deals was beginning to disintegrate. An official of one club accused Rangers owner Tom Hicks of "knowing he controls the market -- so he's playing with it like a guy with a remote-control car."
Three other teams criticized the Rangers' price on all its players, from Eric Gagne to Joaquin Benoit, using words like "ridiculous" and "unreal." So now that we're down to the last 48 hours, the Rangers will have to prove they meant business and had a plan all along -- or they're going to infuriate their peers even more than Hicks did with A-Rod's $252-million Powerball jackpot, a contract other owners still grumble about. "This," said an executive of one team, "is decision-making time."
The more I think about it and the more I read...Jon Daniels is in a really bad position to this up. If he jerks Schuerholz around too long and ends up losing out on a good Braves deal, he could end up with an Angels team that can then lower their price for Tex (taking out Saunders from the deal for say, Santana).
Word is Daniels (while it's a good move to aim high) is simply reaching for the stars with Gagne (asking for two star prospects from BOS and NYY).
This could backfire badly if they end up holding Gagne and not getting good value for Tex.
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