Yoni is never wrong ..right along with Jesus.. they are never wrong..![]()
actually, it was more of a supplement than a correction. I never argued against the fact that the suspect had been previously arrested but simply waited for conformation of that fact.
Take a look at the following video. It tells the story much
better than any I have ever seen. But I doubt it will
convince everyone on this forum. They will more than
likely view it as racist. But Roy Becks' lecture says it
better than I can.
Numbers
Well, big of you to post the "supplement" then.
argentina had the last major outbreak of the bubonic plague... is manu mania to blame?
Is this the same american who when i went to hire guys from the local mission, said he didn't want to "shave his goatee" for a job.I can find you an American right now that will dig your ditches, build your roads, and hang your drywall for the same money
yeah, those americans are just DYING to work.
Oh great, we are already politicizing this. Three students with bright futures are dead. If they weren't killed by an illegal immigrant would any of you even give a damn?
^^^ Guess my question is answered. Nobody cares about three black kids being killed. Guess their skin needs to be less pigmented. Typical!!!
Hey Yonivore, isn't this three less black people who can participate in a riot because you find black culture morally corrupt? You still have that opinion?
I dont think black culture is corrupt. But I think there are statistical indicators that need to be addressed.
The highest rate was non-Hispanic Blacks, among whom 69.4 percent of births were out-of-wedlock.http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2162/Views > June 16, 2005
Black Men: Missing
By Salim Muwakkil
As we limp into the 21st century, a gender gap is rending the fabric of the entire African-American community.Tags race Share Digg del.icio.us Reddit Newsvine The overwhelming absence of Black men has always been one of the most distressing facts about life in America’s public housing developments. In Chicago, for example, black women are the vast majority of lease holders in the Chicago Housing Authority; men are like ghosts in the projects.
Besieged by poverty, disease, violence and mass incarceration, African-American men are con uously missing in action. At one time, this gender imbalance afflicted mostly lower-income neighborhoods. But as we limp into the 21st century, that gender gap is rending the fabric of the entire African-American community.
“Where have all the Black men gone?” asked the headline on a story by Jonathan Tilove for The Star Ledger in Newark, N.J. The article examined the New Jersey city of East Orange, where there are 37 percent more adult women than men. Tilove wrote that most of the missing men are dead, and many others are locked up or in the military.
“Worst yet,” he wrote, “the gender imbalance in East Orange is not some grotesque anomaly. It’s a vivid snapshot of a very troubling reality in black America.” Tilove noted that nationwide adult black women outnumber black men by 2 million. With nearly another million black men in prison or the military, the reality in most black communities across the country is an even greater imbalance—a gap of 2.8 million, or 26 percent, according to Census Bureau figures for 2002. The comparable disparity for whites was 8 percent.
In some cities the gap is even higher. There are more than 30 percent more black women than men in Baltimore, New Orleans, Chicago and Cleveland. In New York City the number is 36 percent and in Philadelphia, 37 percent. As the black population ages, the gap widens. “By the time people reach their 60s in East Orange, there are 47 percent more black women than men,” Tilove wrote.
This growing gender gap has enormously negative implications for the future of black America. And there are nuances in the statistics that make the prognosis even bleaker. For example, among well-educated, professional black women—a group that is growing rapidly—the gap is a chasm. Surely, that progress for black women is good news that shouldn’t be overlooked. However, as black women advance, black men are falling even further behind.
In fact, the more successful a black woman becomes, the more likely she will end up alone, Walter Farrell, a University of North Carolina professor, said in a March 2002 Washington Monthly article. As a result, professional black women are having fewer children, meaning that a growing percentage of black children are being born into less educated, less affluent families.
The recent edition of the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education warns that “a large and growing gender gap in African-American higher education has become a troublesome trend casting a shadow on overall black education progress.” The Journal reports that in 2001, there were 1,095,000 black women enrolled in ins utions of higher education and only 604,000 black men. The gap, which is even wider at professional schools, has increased since 2001.
It’s also important to note that despite unprecedented gains, black women are the fastest growing group of inmates in the nation’s prisons. And they still bear the brunt of urban poverty as single parents in the commercial wastelands that too often are their neighborhoods.
Unless we make some dramatic changes in the way our society tracks black men, all of these conditions will worsen, with increasingly nightmarish consequences. The primary culprit is the tracking of black men into a criminal justice system that a growing number of critics have dubbed the “prison-industrial complex.” Many are there because of the so-called war on drugs and its accompanying mandatory minimum sentences.
The tracking process begins in elementary school, where African-American males routinely are assumed to be academically deficient and then demonized for their angry reactions to those biased assumptions. Resentful of a system that blithely dismisses their potential, many black boys eventually become alienated from scholastic activity. A recent study found that only 38 percent of Chicago’s black males have graduated from high school since 1995.
These uneducated youth are the raw material of the prison-industrial complex. Lacking marketable skills, they flock to the ruthless underground economy of drug commerce where they are easily siphoned into the “injustice” system—victims of the drug war. Some also become victims of lethal gun violence—homicide remains the leading cause of death for young black men.
Unless we strenuously intervene to better the prospects of African-American men, who incidentally comprise about one-eighth of the earth’s entire population of prison inmates, we may just be accomplices to a process of genocide in our own country.
Im searching for the statistic that shows what % of black men have multiple children with multiple women. It seems its not a very PC statistic, but Im sure its compelling.
Are you to blame for why many non-Americans view Americans as stupid?
Last edited by smeagol; 08-16-2007 at 10:58 AM.
Well, yes. Not to put to fine a point on it. But then again, who cares what you people think?
My comment is not a knock on Americans. It is reality.
Argentine's outside Argentina are viewed as y mother ers. Nobody likes us that much.
But it is nothing to get pissed off at, DR. It is a fact that can be empirically confirmed.
I wasnt pissed. Do I have to write things in blue text for you?
And you find Americans dumb...at least we know sarcasm when we read it.
America. YEAH!
I'll take a y Argentinian over a Brazilian anyday.
Interesting article Dark Reign. I have my own opinions as to why the black men shortage, and the article does go into some of the reasons. I'm not saying that a problem does not exist and needs to be addressed, it just appears to me that people tend to group black people into one group/culture. In case you didn't know, and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here (this time) but blacks are a diverse group of people and the way that that Yonivore was describing blacks it was as if he believed blacks were not capable of individual thought and followed the ways of one culture.
You have that view of us not merely because of our ignorance, which seems to be universal among men, but rather because we combine our ignorance with a near-messianic certainty of our own infallibility. It is this combination of ignorance and arrogance that you find so irritating.
Absolutely agree with you. I am not black. But I have befriended and had very long friendships with many adult males who exhibit absolutely none of the "epidemic" problems the article discusses. Of course, I dont look at them as some sort of standout people or an exemplary example of black men, I look at them as people who decided to make the best life decisions they could at the times when they arise. Just like me, just like my dad, just like any number of normal, typically law-abiding citizens do when walking the path of life.
But the fact remains that statistics show a disparity in the problematic family issues that arise when its not a two-parent household. Its large-scale and widespread in the black community. I dont pretend to know why, but Im sure it has to do with economic reasons moreso than any other. Inner city schools, regardless of being predominantly black or white, are never anything other than junk. So you have a lack of education and a lack of local economic opportunities. Combine these factors and a number of others and you have the fact sheet.
I have had admittedly limited discussions about these issues with a variant group of people. I tend to not enter into them often (although they constantly come up) because it always derails when someone says something uninformed and stupid (ex. Black people have an extra muscle in their leg, thats why they run faster.....its the white mans fault for keeping us down after slavery was abolished, etc.)
Though I have entered the arena, I only do it early and with little rebuttal on my part. Better to ask an opinion and then listen to the response and leave it at that. If I am asked mine, I will. I dont blurt it out.
Its all comes back to the same basic premise. They are black and we are not, therefore we dont understand. Which if thats the most amicable conclusion the conversation can result in, then why enter to begin with?
Hence, my stance on not entering.
...and nevermind Yoni. He may or may not be racist. There are a plethora of other reasons to dislike him and his ilk outside of his embattled integration issues.
I never said I view Americans as stupid, I said many non-Americans view Americans as stupid, which is a fact (that they view them as stupid, not that they are stupid - is it clear?).
The same way many non-Argentines view Argentines as y and pedantic, they view French (especially the one living in Paris) as people who lack manners, they view the Nordic as people who don't express their feeling as the Latins do, etc, etc, etc.
As a matter of fact, many people on this board are far away from being stupid. You and DR are a perfect example of extremely intelligent posters.
I agree. A quality, or rather defect, this is found on a minority of Americans.It is this combination of ignorance and arrogance that you find so irritating.
Mookie is not one of ignorant/arrogant Americans though, he is just stupid and would still be stupid if he were born in Spain, Canada or Nepal![]()
Last edited by smeagol; 08-17-2007 at 08:39 AM.
Yes, blue will help me. Emoticons too.
And I don't think Americans are stupid as a general rule (read my prior post), I think some Americans are stupid, just like some Argentines are stupid too. Acutally, too many Argenines are stupid, unfortunately![]()
That's why we are were we are as a country, as an economy, as a society.
LOL...I know you dont and didnt need your last post to figure it out.
You missed the sarcasm so I laid a lame joke on top of it.
No harm, no foul.
I dont know if you noticed, but I dont comment on Argentina or its citizens for one very good reason. I dont know anyone personally from Argentina and nor have I ever been there. Hence, my inability to say anything of relevance and the increased possibility of saying something I will regret when proven to be uninformed and stupid.
stupid?
smeagols against the second ammendment
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