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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Kill Three Delaware College Students Execution-Style

    Some Americans will do these jobs, of course. But we'd rather they didn't, and, in fact, spend billions every year for law enforcement and prisons to dissuade them from working in such fields.

    Why we're importing "undo ented immigrants" (as CNN calls this guy) to murder US citizens isn't clear to me. Do we need to artificially depress the wages of sin by importing cheaper foreign killers? Perhaps the WSJ editorial board would be so kind as to weigh in on the economics of this.

    Three students murdered execution-style.

    A suspect who surrendered to the mayor of Newark, New Jersey, pleaded not guilty Friday to murder and related charges in the execution-style slayings of three college students in a schoolyard.

    Jose Carranza, 28, was formally charged in Essex County Superior Court with murder, attempted murder, robbery and various conspiracy and weapons offenses. Bail was set at $1 million.

    A 15-year-old boy was arraigned Thursday on identical charges during a closed hearing and remains in the custody of juvenile authorities. Prosecutor Paula Dow says she wants to try him as an adult.

    Three other people are being sought.

    Wearing an orange jail jumpsuit, Carranza spoke softly through a translator. He had surrendered Thursday to Mayor Cory A. Booker, who attended the arraignment.

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    Details about Carranza's background emerged Friday as police looked for three more suspects.

    Carranza is an undo ented immigrant from Peru, his lawyer acknowledged in court. Carranza had been using a bogus Social Security number, Sheriff Armando Fontoura said.

    Carranza had been scheduled to appear in court Monday to answer two previous indictments. One accuses him of sexually assaulting and threatening to kill a 13-year-old, a girlfriend's child. Another charges him with an array of assault and weapons offenses.

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    "There seems to be no motivation, no provocation," Booker said during his CNN appearance, calling the crime "evil."

    "This was just a disgusting, vicious attack and it's troubling because it's at the core, really," Booker said. "What they they were attacking really not only these amazing children and their families but what the core of Newark is really about."
    So, this dirtbag was out on bail for raping a child and threatening to kill him (her?). A simple check of his immigration status would have kept him locked up in federal detention awaiting the outcome of a deportation hearing.

    Instead, the sanctuary city of Newark didn't bother, and set him free. And now three students are executed for no reason whatsoever except in the cause of politicians' pandering to illegals.

    I hope liberals are realy proud of themselves.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Kill Three Delaware College Students Execution-Style

    Some Americans will do these jobs, of course. But we'd rather they didn't, and, in fact, spend billions every year for law enforcement and prisons to dissuade them from working in such fields.

    Why we're importing "undo ented immigrants" (as CNN calls this guy) to murder US citizens isn't clear to me. Do we need to artificially depress the wages of sin by importing cheaper foreign killers? Perhaps the WSJ editorial board would be so kind as to weigh in on the economics of this.

    Three students murdered execution-style.


    So, this dirtbag was out on bail for raping a child and threatening to kill him (her?). A simple check of his immigration status would have kept him locked up in federal detention awaiting the outcome of a deportation hearing.

    Instead, the sanctuary city of Newark didn't bother, and set him free. And now three students are executed for no reason whatsoever except in the cause of politicians' pandering to illegals.

    I hope liberals are realy proud of themselves.
    Damn George Bush..

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Damn Newark, New Jersey, if you ask me.

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    I thought having open borders was harmless?

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    Oh geez.

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    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
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    So he came here undo ented because he was a rapist murderer?

    Or he was a rapist murderer who came here undo ented?

    Does his bad apple status translate to all or most undo ented workers= bad apples?
    All/most men in thier 20's= bad apples?
    All/most guys named jose= bad apples?

    was he an all around great guy untill he crossed into our country illegally, but the very act of that illegal crossing then transformed him Jekell-Hyde style into the very incarnate of evil goo-back?

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    You only have two people to blame for this. One one of them goes by Bushie.

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    There are a variety of reasons we need a comprehensive immigration policy. This anecdote only would be a convincing reason to people who cannot think clearly.

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    Yoni, deport the blacks back to Africa and Hispanics back to South of the border for killing each other.

    My bet is that the chances of those kids being killed by other blacks is much higher than being killed by illegal aliens.

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    Luck is Evil Phil Hellmuth's Avatar
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    Sad story, but please don't use this to taint the whole class of illegals. So, so ridiculous on your part..

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Sad story, but please don't use this to taint the whole class of illegals. So, so ridiculous on your part..

    That's yoni schtick. HE will taint a whole class of folks for the actions of a few..
    Last edited by George Gervin's Afro; 08-12-2007 at 06:03 PM.

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    That's yoni schitck. HE will taint a whole class of folks for the actions of a few..
    What's wrong with that? I thought stereotyping, labeling, and generalizing were three of the great pastimes of America, next to baseball, litigation, and blaming on everyone else!

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    John Wayne Gacey was white. Are all white's to blame for his crimes?

    Wasn't Son of Sam Jewish? Are all Jewish people to blame too?

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Is there any graphs for how many crimes people from Canada and Mexico have commited once entering the US legally or illegally? I think that might be interesting.

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    haha funny way to look at it. unfortunately most serial killers and child rapists are american citizens. NEXT!

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Fact of the matter is, if this dirtball had not received sanctuary he would either still be in prison, awaiting deportation or, he would be back in his country of origin.

    He would not have been decimating that family.

    And, on the matter of who commits the most such crimes, illegal immigrants or American citizens. So what? This one would have been easy to prevent.

    Plus, most of these crimes are committed by people who should have already been in prison or executed but, for liberal "rehabilitation" prison programs, were released back on society to re-offend.

    So, you're right, more of these type crimes are committed by American citizens. But, that is only a conviction of our criminal justice system -- this guy is a result of the failure of our immigration policy and the wrong-headedness of some liberal city government that declares their domain exempt from federal immigration laws and provides sanctuary for these animals.

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    When American citizens are willing to work for jack outdoors in August in Texas digging ditches, building roads, and hanging drywall let me know.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    When American citizens are willing to work for jack outdoors in August in Texas digging ditches, building roads, and hanging drywall let me know.
    Consider yourself let known.

    I can find you an American right now that will dig your ditches, build your roads, and hang your drywall for the same money.

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    Ha. Will they work for less than the minimum wage with no guarantees they'll even be paid and no protections if they aren't?

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Ha. Will they work for less than the minimum wage with no guarantees they'll even be paid and no protections if they aren't?
    Are those the only jobs illegal immigrants are working? No. They can have those.

    My American will take the other jobs being stolen by illegal immigrants.

    On second thought, My American will take the jobs you mentioned, as well. Except, he'll ing get paid because he's not an illegal alien and he has recourse against employers that try to cheat him out of his wages.

    So, bring 'em on.

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    Right, because accountants and lawyers are losing their jobs to illegals picked up off the street.

    Jose, I'll pay you $20 to draft up a couple contracts today.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Right, because accountants and lawyers are losing their jobs to illegals picked up off the street.

    Jose, I'll pay you $20 to draft up a couple contracts today.
    You talk as if all manual labor jobs are insecure and low wage. I know a roofer that hires illegal alien crews. I've ragged him about it and his excuse isn't the pay...he claims to pay them the going union wage for whatever roofer make. He says it's because they work harder and longer and that they're well worth the money.

    Now, if you want to talk about migrant farm labor, fine. It pays crap. But, it's also pretty well confined to the border regions. Let 'em work the fields on day labor visas.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    So, this dirtbag was out on bail for raping a child and threatening to kill him (her?). A simple check of his immigration status would have kept him locked up in federal detention awaiting the outcome of a deportation hearing.

    Instead, the sanctuary city of Newark didn't bother, and set him free
    I didn't see from the story where the suspect was arrested and posted bond on the previous charges. It is possible to be indicted for a crime without being arrested beforehand. If he was on bond from the previous crimes, then somebody at the jail or the D.A.'s office really dropped the ball. If he had simply been accused but never arrested, I don't think your assesment is a fair one.

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    From an updated story:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/14....ap/index.html

    Carranza had been free on $5,000 bail when the shootings occurred, but immigration officials say he may never have returned to the streets had local authorities contacted them after his first felony arrest in October 2006.

    We certainly would have been inclined to place him in a removal proceeding, how ever we came across him," said Marc Raimondi, spokesman for United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "Given that he is alleged to have committed a very serious offense against a child, that would have put him at the top of our list."

    New Jersey is among the places where local authorities aren't required to check the immigration status of someone arrested, and some critics want that changed.

    "If New Jersey is not prepared to cooperate with federal officials in enforcing the law of the land, then our state is no longer governed by laws," said state Assemblyman Richard Merkt. Last year the Republican proposed a bill that would require jail officials to remand illegal immigrants to federal authorities, but the legislation never advanced.
    I guess Yoni was right, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    From an updated story:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/14....ap/index.html

    I guess Yoni was right, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Big of you to post a correction -- even with the backhanded compliment.

    By the way, a broken clock may never be right, even twice a day. It can be broken by missing its hands or by running perpetually slow or fast, etc...

    I believe it's a stopped clock that's right twice a day. But, even then, it would depend on the type of clock. No?

    Bottom line...I'm never wrong.

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