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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ TheSanityAnnex's Avatar
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    The barely squeaking by is what convinces me his a superstar in the making. 2 MINUTES, Down 2 points. 80+ yards to go. 2 fourth down conversions. A 3rd AND 24! Cutler for the win.
    If he was a superstar in the making, he shouldn't of had his team down 2 points with 2 minutes to go........to the Bills.

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    You can't handle The Truth TheTruth's Avatar
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    Talk to me when Cutler makes a ProBowl.
    I most definitely will.

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    If he was a superstar in the making, he shouldn't of had his team down 2 points with 2 minutes to go........to the Bills.
    Elway was a superstar right? How many game winning drives did he have? Against subpar teams? Cutler had 300+ yards passing. His kicker missed 2 field goals. Cutler for the win.

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    The Bills.

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    Got beat by Jay Cutler when they were up by 2 points with 2 minutes left.

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    I know you're a Chargers fan Sanity. Which means you weren't a football fan before 2004. Which means you probably didn't watch much football before 2004. So, I'm gonna assume that you never got to see many of the great QB's of the last 20 years or so. Great QB's don't struggle with 8 men in the box. Peyton Manning didn't do it against the Bears in the Super Bowl. Drew Brees didn't do it in the NFC championship game. Tom Brady sure as would never struggle.

    Rivers will never be more than a good QB with great weapons. Never.

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    Watch the Broncos/Falcons super bowl. That's how you destroy 8 men in the box.

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    Cutler has the tools, but I don't know if he has all the heart yet. He has a very good team around him so that helps. Rivers fits in the same category, but I'd say he's shown more than Cutler at this point. Leinart can't throw on the run and may not have the heart either. He also has a decent team around him and a good defense, but not a great O line. VY has the worst team around him of the 4 and yet keeps winning. That's in amazing. The guy gets the best out of his teammates.

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    Rivers will never be more than a good QB with great weapons. Never.
    Explain to me how Rivers led his team in back to back comeback wins over Cincinnati and Denver last year from point deficits never before overcome? You can even bring up the comeback he led against Seattle if you'd like.


    The dude was just in the ProBowl. Saying Rivers is average makes you look re ed, almost as re ed as calling Cutler a superstar after one game.

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    my bologna has a first name, it's H O M E R.

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    my bologna has a first name, it's H O M E R.

    No . I may be a homer for the Broncos but come the on.

    Sanity, as much as your posts crack me up damn near every time I read them, quit turning every ing NFL thread into one about the Chargers.

    You constantly do this. The Chargers are a fantastic team this year, no doubt. But they were last year too and it resulted in yet another dissapointing post season. Win a Super Bowl, then hijack the threads.

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    Sanity, as much as your posts crack me up damn near every time I read them, quit turning every ing NFL thread into one about the Chargers.
    I simply laughed at TheTruth saying Cutler would be a superstar, without any mention of the Chargers. TheTruth proceeded to bring the Chargers into this, I followed his lead.

    And what is the problem with bringing Rivers into this conversation anyways? He's a young QB just like Leinart, Young, and Cutler.

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    I simply laughed at TheTruth saying Cutler would be a superstar, without any mention of the Chargers. TheTruth proceeded to bring the Chargers into this, I followed his lead.

    And what is the problem with bringing Rivers into this conversation anyways? He's a young QB just like Leinart, Young, and Cutler.

    Because you bring the Chargers into every single thread.

    Having said all that, you are still one of my favorite posters on this site, so keep up the good work, just note my complaint.

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    There's not an official Chargers thread, what else am I supposed to do? Complaint noted and disregarded.

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    Using wins to measure a quarterback's effectiveness is total bull . Take last year for example. Against the Chiefs and the Bears, Matt Leinart led the Cards to what should've been two game winning field goals. Neil Rackers missed both of them. Two losses, and there wasn't a damn thing that Leinart could've done about it. Neil Rackers shanks a 41 yarder and Leinart can't win, but the ans kicker makes a 60 yarder and Vince Young "just wins".

    But on the topic, I think that all three of them will be great.

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    The W/L argument comes into play either when the stats between two QBs are extremely close or when the QB being defended has ty stats.

    I remember when the Texans beat the Steelers with 47 yards of total offense in 2002. Should Carr get the credit for the win in guiding his team to a whooping 12 yards of offense per quarter?

    W/L record is a team stat.

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    And it's only one week, but VY and Leinart are the two worst QBs in terms of QB rating.

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    The Truth is Vince Young>cutler. VY does it with less talent right now also............Broncos barely beat the ing Bills...the Bills. Calm the down. Oh, and Rivers>cutler also.

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    Got beat by Jay Cutler when they were up by 2 points with 2 minutes left.
    Rivers and Young would of NEVER been down 2 to the Bills with 2 min left. They'd of put the game away by then. Take Culter's out of your mouth already.

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    And it's only one week, but VY and Leinart are the two worst QBs in terms of QB rating.
    Cutler - barely beat a ty, ty team that had it's compe ive fire taken away by the near on field death of a teammate.

    Leinart - Lost to a relatively ty 9ers team with absolutely no offense whatosever, but a good defense.

    Young - Led his team to beat a team in the Jaguars in which almost nobody gave them a chance. The guy leads winners one way or another. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat the Colts this weekend, they shouldn't, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

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    Yeah that idiotic lateral he threw really impressed me. And the fact that he didn't have the genius to e the dam ball.

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    Yeah that idiotic lateral he threw really impressed me. And the fact that he didn't have the genius to e the dam ball.
    He was at the line ready to e the damn ball when the kicking team came running onto the field. He had to run off so they didn't get a penalty for too many men on the field. Pretty heads up play.

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    There's not an official Chargers thread, what else am I supposed to do? Complaint noted and disregarded.
    Agreed.

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    There's not an official Chargers thread, what else am I supposed to do? Complaint noted and disregarded.
    Start one. I'd post legit stuff to it with the exception of Week 10 and any potential playoff encounter the Colts may have with the Chargers.

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    Using wins to measure a quarterback's effectiveness is total bull .
    LMAO right.

    That's why Dan Marino >>> Joe Montana, right? Cuz winning means nothing

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