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    Cutler is winning:

    Young, Leinart have company
    By Bill Williamson
    Denver Post Staff Writer
    Article Last Updated: 09/12/2007 12:02:32 AM MDT


    Jay Cutler was selected 11th overall in the 2006 NFL draft. (Post file)The Larry Bird and Magic Johnson of the new generation have some compe ion.

    During the offseason, Tennessee ans quarterback Vince Young was quoted as saying he and Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart wanted to be known as this generation's Magic and Bird.

    One of Leinart's representatives, Chuck Price, also was recently quoted as using the comparison. But Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler may be butting his head between the much-hyped twosome.

    In the 2006 draft, Young was selected third overall, Leinart 10th and Cutler 11th. All three will be linked together for the rest of their NFL careers and forever compared.

    Cutler has made six starts for the Broncos. Compared with Young's and
    Leinart's first six starts of their careers, Cutler has more wins, yards passing and touchdown passes and fewer interceptions.
    Cutler also had a better 2007 debut than Young or Leinart.

    Young, also a dynamic runner, went 2-4 in his first six games. He was 72-of-151 passing for 840 yards, with four touchdown passes and seven interceptions.

    Leinart was 1-5, going 112-of-211 passing for 1,294 yards. He threw six touchdown passes and seven interceptions.

    Cutler is 3-3, having completed 104-of-176 passes for 1,305 yards. He has 10 touchdown passes and six interceptions.

    Cutler established himself by engineering a game-winning drive Sunday at Buffalo. The Broncos beat the Bills 15-14 on a last-second field goal by Jason Elam.

    "It's my job to stay poised and in control. That's what quarterbacks are supposed to do," Cutler said. "That's why we get paid the big bucks, to make third downs and make two-minute drives. Bronco fans know the situation well from John Elway doing it for all those years."
    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6866339
    Last edited by johnsmith; 09-12-2007 at 02:42 PM.

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    That's about how anyone thought the numbers would look. Besides the fact that that happens to be in the same order of "who watched the longest", Cutler was known as a gunslinger, Leinart a passer, and Young as a scrambler, so logically the passing stats should be Cutler-Leinart-Young (except interceptions, which logically would be Leinart-Cutler-Young, so Cutler being up by one is a small suprise there).

    Of course, see if Cutler keeps up with the winning. Since that 2-4 start, Young is 7-1...

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    culter got lucky to get the field goal off on time

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    Its all about right now and who is winning this season. Nothing else matters.

    Right now:
    Cutler and Young: 1-0
    Leinart: 0-1

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    That's about how anyone thought the numbers would look. Besides the fact that that happens to be in the same order of "who watched the longest", Cutler was known as a gunslinger, Leinart a passer, and Young as a scrambler, so logically the passing stats should be Cutler-Leinart-Young (except interceptions, which logically would be Leinart-Cutler-Young, so Cutler being up by one is a small suprise there).

    Of course, see if Cutler keeps up with the winning. Since that 2-4 start, Young is 7-1...

    Good point on the 7-1 thing.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Broncos already kicking ass before Cutler took over? I think the ans were like 0-4 or some when Vince got in and the Cards were pretty bad last year too. Throw Vince or Leinart in Denver last year and I'm sure their numbers would look better, I'd venture to say Denver would've made the playoffs if Vince was their QB last year

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Broncos already kicking ass before Cutler took over? I think the ans were like 0-4 or some when Vince got in and the Cards were pretty bad last year too. Throw Vince or Leinart in Denver last year and I'm sure their numbers would look better, I'd venture to say Denver would've made the playoffs if Vince was their QB last year

    Would he have been playing defense too?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Broncos already kicking ass before Cutler took over? I think the ans were like 0-4 or some when Vince got in and the Cards were pretty bad last year too. Throw Vince or Leinart in Denver last year and I'm sure their numbers would look better, I'd venture to say Denver would've made the playoffs if Vince was their QB last year
    0-3. He went 8-5 as a starter and they finished 8-8. He played in 2 of the 3 opening losses as well though.

    The Broncos were 7-4 when Cutler took over and finished 9-7

    The Cards were 1-3 when Leinart took over and finished 5-11. Leinart took over in the 4th of the Cardinals 4rd loss.

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    Leinart looked terrible throwing the ball Monday night. His throws weren't even close to the WR's (Alex Smith looked even worse). VY will never put up "great" passing numbers. But he'll always be a winner before anything else. He'll find a way.

    As a Bronco fan, I can honestly say that I wouldn't trade Cutler straight up for either of those guys. Leinart isn't anywhere near athletic enough to run the Broncos offense. Cutler throws on the run about as well as anyone in the league right now. He just has a cannon. VY is most definitely athletic enough to run the Broncos offense, but I just don't like his throwing style.

    Cutler is a future superstar. Write that down in pen.

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    Cutler is a future superstar. Write that down in pen.

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    Cutler is a future superstar. Write that down in pen.
    So far Cutler has indeed been extremely impressive. He's been more accurate than just about anyone expected, which has resulted in a higher completion percentage and lower interceptions. He's definitely better than Leinart right now (although in all fairness, look at the O-line Matty has had to work with), and has much more room to grow IMO. I'm not sure I'd go with future superstar, but star certainly.

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    Phillip Rivers looked good on Sunday with those 8 men in the box.

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    So far Cutler has indeed been extremely impressive. He's been more accurate than just about anyone expected, which has resulted in a higher completion percentage and lower interceptions. He's definitely better than Leinart right now (although in all fairness, look at the O-line Matty has had to work with), and has much more room to grow IMO. I'm not sure I'd go with future superstar, but star certainly.
    Man, you must not watch many Broncos games. The Broncos Oline is overrated when it comes to pass protection. They have been for years. Cutler made things happen with his feet, something that Leinart will never be able to do.

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    Phillip Rivers looked good on Sunday with those 8 men in the box.
    Phillip Rivers was playing against the #1 defense. Cutler was playing against the lowly Bills.

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    Philip Rivers played against a team that put 8 MEN IN THE BOX. He had the protection, he didn't make the throws.

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    3 DB's in Coverage. 3!!!!!

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    Jay Cutler will be a star. Along the lines of Dan Marino.

    Phillip Rivers will be a good QB. Along the lines of a Warren Moon.

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    Philip Rivers played against a team that put 8 MEN IN THE BOX. He had the protection, he didn't make the throws.
    He had protection? He was sacked 3 times and hurried many times. The Bears entire defense is pretty much ProBowl quality, including those 3 db's you mentioned.

    I just find it funny that you've annointed Cutler future superstar after barely squeaking past the Bills.

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    Dan Marino. Cutler's gonna win Super Bowls. Warren Moon is way too high a ceiling for Phillip Rivers. I'm thinking more along the lines of a Trent Green. Maybe.

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    Jay Cutler will be a star. Along the lines of Dan Marino.

    Phillip Rivers will be a good QB. Along the lines of a Warren Moon.
    What are you basing this on?

    College careers? Rivers>>>>Cutler
    Pro careers? Rivers>>>>Cutler

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    When Manning and Brady go on the decline, Rivers will be the best QB in the league.

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    He had protection? He was sacked 3 times and hurried many times. The Bears entire defense is pretty much ProBowl quality, including those 3 db's you mentioned.

    I just find it funny that you've annointed Cutler future superstar after barely squeaking past the Bills.
    3 DEFENSIVE BACKS IN COVERAGE?!?!

    The barely squeaking by is what convinces me his a superstar in the making. 2 MINUTES, Down 2 points. 80+ yards to go. 2 fourth down conversions. A 3rd AND 24! Cutler for the win.

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    What are you basing this on?

    College careers? Rivers>>>>Cutler
    Pro careers? Rivers>>>>Cutler
    He probably realizes that Cutler played for the mighty power that was Vanderbilt and was still the Conference player of the year. Or maybe he just watches the games and sees that Cutler has a better arm, better mobility, and can get the ball within 2 feet of his WR.

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    He probably realizes that Cutler played for the mighty power that was Vanderbilt and was still the Conference player of the year. Or maybe he just watches the games and sees that Cutler has a better arm, better mobility, and can get the ball within 2 feet of his WR.
    Talk to me when Cutler makes a ProBowl.

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    When Manning and Brady go on the decline, Rivers will be the best QB in the league.
    jesus man, if Brady ever has a game like that with 8 men in the box I'll buy you a San Diego super bowl video.

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