howard i give you, dampier is dubious, but harris was still in the game when the hawks built their lead.
Hawks are going to be a good team and they're going to surprise a lot of people by beating other good teams fairly often. That is until people realize they are a good team. Law comes along and they'll be real tough. They're the kind of team that gives Dallas problems, long and athletic, just like GS was.
the mavs are weakk i saiddd
I'm out of town until Monday and didn't get to see it. I'm going to miss the Colts-Pats as well. From reading the recap, it sounds like the Hawks were really up for this game and our guys weren't. That's how it usually goes, people probably think they're playing the same old Hawks. San Antonio struggled to beat Memphis on the road, and we were missing 3 regulars in our rotation.
Mavs made their bed and have to sleep in it: Win, and people just say they have to wait until May to prove something. Lose, and it's further proof of every critical assessment ever made of this team. We weren't going 82-0. Hearing that the Suns got curbstomped by a bad Faker team and Mustache Man was complaining about Jackzen calling a timeout takes the piss out of this loss. Misery loves company.
If this was a loss to Utah or even Portland, I wouldn't be pissed. I'd completely shrug it off as no big deal.
It's because of the fact that this was a loss to a team that basically copied the Golden State strategy and we still couldn't do to stop it.
0-1 vs. athletic, running teams. That's the only regular season record I'm interested in for Dallas this year.
Alright you got a point there but still we need Harris and Howard to beat these running teams. Stackhouse sucks against running teams I've noticed as well. Eddie Jones was even worse. I'm pretty sure Howard could've done better if he was playing. Unlike those 2 I assume Howard would do better against running teams.
Positive takeaway #1: ATL won't be in the WC playoff bracket, guaranteed.
Positive takeaway #2: At least Dallas was in the game. PHO got hammer ed by a bad team on their home court.
that's because actual mavs boards suck since gots like you post there.
Mavtalk rules !
http://dallas-mavs.com/ is the best mavs site.
It's appearance is kinda boring. It needs a little FLAIR. Why not put a 2006 Western Conference Banner up top.
It's blue italics.
I phail. The effort that counts though, right?
dallasbasketball.com 4 life.
Blown away by another run n' gun team. I dread what will happen when they play Phoenix. I fully expect a 35 point blowout.
Dirk has redefined the term "pussy" as well. He set the standard last year for all basketball pussies, and now he's raising the bar.
Eddie Jones, Devean George, Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse. Four guys drawing social security and stealing four roster spots. Dirk at Center over Diop and Dampier. Layup line for the other team. Am I justified in starting to believe that this run at the elite level could be over a lot sooner than people think? It sure was genius giving Stackhouse a 3-year deal when by all indications he looks done. Who the would want his contract? Or Dampier, if he's going to totally suck for 11 minutes a night at $10 million per instead of being mediocre for 30 minutes a night? And are the guys tuning Avery out? How the are we even 9-5? We're two improbable comebacks against Houston and Toronto from being .500.
And don't look now but the Warriors are 6-7 after an 0-6 start. A buddy's wife can't get off work tomorrow for the T-Wolves game, so I'm probably going to that one. Ordinarily I'd pencil that one in for a losing-streak stopper, but the Wolves could beat us the way we're playing.
I wouldn't be shocked if this ends up being the worst Mav team in the Cuban era, worse than the two Antoines (or is it Antawns?) team. I know it's early, and they might very well be "going through the motions," but that defense is horrible. As is the way they just settle for jumpers instead of driving to the basket.
LOL @ this thread. Mav Fan is acting like Spur Fan last year.
Except without the, you know, four les to comfort them.
I'd relax a bit more. You already learned that burning your way through the regular season doesn't mean . Wait to see if things have improved after the All-Star break.
Thus the reason comparing the reactions is an apples/oranges thing. Spurs have a history of getting it done when it counts. Mavs don't.
True. On the other hand, there are lots of reasons to believe that the Warriors were the only team that was going to beat them last year.
And you still have that team intact. And are even deeper with Bass, Jones, and Howard.
So, still no reason to panic.
I just don't understand some of Avery's decisions regarding distribution of minutes. No, I don't want the core playing 42 minutes a night in November, but why is Dirk playing so much at the five? He sucks there. The last three games have followed a familiar script: Mavs settle for long jumpers and get a brickfest going, while on the other end, the opposition gets whatever shot they want and are aggressive. It's losing basketball, and it's exactly what they did against Miami and Golden State.
I think you're right, though. Unless the wheels come completely off, it will be very hard to forecast with any kind of precision what this team will do in the spring for a while.
Again, read the Spurs threads from previous years. Nobody understood WTF Pop was doing with his rotations, even as recently as last spring.
So maybe there actually is some undecipherable method that Avery has learned from him.
I do agree what the Mavs should be doing is figuring out how to get points in the blocks more consistently.
Of course, if the Mavs end up sucking, that would be good, too.
I gotta say, Mavs fans should be worried (as a partial Mavs fan myself). They have a great collection of players, and the switch-up at point guard that put Harris in the starting spot with Terry off the bench was long overdue. Terry has definitely got game ... about 45% of the time. Which makes him a good bench option, but an awful starter.
I've argued for years that Terry was probably one of the worst starting PGs in the league and needed a different role. Kudos to Avery for finally recognizing that. The problem is that, no matter how well Harris plays, he's ALSO not a real point guard, but is in fact a "scoring guard" as well ... very much like Terry, except without Terry's outside shooting "dependability," if that word can even be used. He makes a few sometimes, but still not consistently. And Terry is actually worse for consistency, even though he is the better shooter. Basically, I guess I'm saying that Dallas has no true point-guard playmaker at all, unlike both the Spurs and Suns. And for that reason they should be very worried. No matter how much talent they bring in around Dirk, Howard, and Terry, they still have no real point-guard.
Last edited by PoleSmoking; 11-27-2007 at 04:57 PM.
Trying to compete with Monosylab1k for the mother of all knee-jerk reactions? Yawn it is too early to decide this. Devean George was a key part of our defense last year during the reguluar season. Hopefully he can get back to where he was. Eddie Jones is alright. Hopefully he eats some of Stackhouse's minutes. The less Stackhouse, the better. I've been saying for a long time we are lucky being successful with Stackhouse sucking it up. Also the nba schedule is brutal. This was the 5th game in 7 days along with a long flight home.
No.
True, November is early in the season. However, regular season games in November count just as much in the standings as regular season games in April. This aint the NCAA, you don't get invited to the playoffs, you have to earn it. Based on the way they're playing right now, the Mavericks have no business talking about a le. So if they're content to roll up 50 win seasons and nothing more, then there's really nothing to talk about or be concerned with. Unless they just completely collapse, they should win 50-55 games at the absolute worst. From Mark Cuban on down to the 15th man, they've been talking about a le as a goal. And no, you don't want your main guys playing 42 minutes a night in November, and it's not the end of the world if you drop a game here or there to a team you're expected to beat. What IS a concern is HOW they're losing games and that they've completely reverted to the "defense" they played under Nellie.Yawn it is too early to decide this.
He was also a complete spare against Golden State.Devean George was a key part of our defense last year during the reguluar season.
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