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Tony Parker and Beno are the same age...Beno might even be older.
And so was Pop...
Tony Parker and Beno are the same age...Beno might even be older.
beno plays better without pressure or expectations. as soon as the heat gets turned up, he'll fold.
I totally agree,that's why I said ¨some people¨ can't deal with alot of presure. and mostly young people.
But I also putted the Spurs as example coze it's not the same to come to the NBA at the age of 20 playing for the Sonics tham for the Spurs.
A good example of a very young player coming to the NBA to play under no presure could be D.Howard.
He came in in 2005 when the Magics were at the very botton of the Eastern Conference and played under no presure for about 2 yrs.
Now that He's got some experience his team is one of the top teams in the East.
I think the key is consistency. Pop should have stuck with one thing with Beno and ridden it all the way through. Pop himself admits that he tried all sorts of approaches, but I think he shouldn't have. That was his first mistake with Beno. People act as if no one ever yelled at Beno in Europe! It was never about Pop yelling at him. Truth is when Pop quits yelling, it looks like he doesn't care enough even to get mad.
Ya well Ploto...I got over Pop's mistreatment of Beno and Rasho, as those two trophies got hoisted...with their asses on the bench. Somehow...I just found a way.
The Spurs are so cheap...if Beno had even come close to approaching Tony's level of play they'd have dumped that contract in a second...get serious.
It's Beno's fault...not Pop's, not the Spurs.
How's Rasho doing in Toronto these days? Is that Pop's fault too?
I agree with that. The only thing I can think of is that Pop decided early on that he was going with Parker, and made sure Parker got top billing. I don't understand a lot of Pops moves, but that org lives and dies with them and so far they've lived to the tune of 4 les.
Parker won Pop's trust and confidence...perhaps it was his composure and ability to bounce back from failure...
Pop would go off on Tony on the sidelines and yank him in the middle of finals games and replace him with Tony's back up...he held bringing Kidd in over Tony's head for an entire season....
And this was when Tony was 19 and 20 years old...not 25.
David Robinson even called Parker out.
Tony earned the starting job...and Pop's trust. Pop didn't give him anything.
You can't have confidence issues if you are a starting PG....cold hard fact of life in the NBA. It's not a nursery school...it's a billion dollar industry built around compe ive sports and determination to be the best...it's not confidence building 101. Pop is going to put the mental toughness of his players to the test....and it's why the Spurs are the most mentally tough team in the NBA.
Beno couldn't hang with that...no hard feelings. Have a good life in Sacremento.
I recall Reggie Theus playing SG most of the time.Theus was a point guard, too. That could turn out to be very beneficial for Beno . . . or very bad.
Everybody knows that Pop demands hard work and discipline. I've heard that Beno was too much of a party boy - and it showed in his lack of discipline in practice. He never seemed to be in great physical shape - maybe that's why he always had injuries.
Anyway - I hope he does well in Sacramento - just never against the Spurs again!
I'll show you something if you'll work with me.
Click on this link:http://24ur.com/bin/video_show.php?2...media=60072804
Search for a little icon named SPORT (00:06:34)
First you'll see abot 15 seconds of some stupid commercial and then you'll see some Slovenian sports news. Last 40 or 50 seconds of this news are about Beno's yesterdays game, his short phone statement and a statement that was given by coach Pop when he was in Belgrade this September. Listen to his statement and then tell me what you think.
Thank you very much.
I agree. I didnt mean that Pop gave Parker anything, I meant that Pop made his decision between the two and went with it. Obviously a good choice and well thought out by Pop. I question his moves sometimes, but you can't argue with his results.
beno will have a mental breakdown and turn into his old pussy-playing self once bibby comes back and he's coming off the bench.
Thank you Sir, for your knowledgeable insight.
I haven't had a chance to read all of the comments here, but I thought I'd say something about this before continuing on.
I think Tony's overall at ude to criticism is the reason why Pop allows him (and others) to work through their mistakes.
Of course, I don't see this first hand, but I've read it many times...Pop is tough on Tony, but Tony always takes that "advice" to another level. He learns from his mistakes, and he works harder. How many times have we read stories about Tony, Tim, etc putting in extra time before or after practice? I'm pretty sure it's not because someone has taken them by the hand and said, "you have to do this." They do it because they're hard workers. They want to be better players. Not everyone is willing to take the initiative, and it has always sounded to me like Beno was one of the lazy ones. In this system, that's a detrement.
Pop has high expectations for his team, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's his system. As we've seen, it works.
It's all about the at ude, and Beno, apparently, had a bad one.
Rasho is doing very well. He will be back in the starting line up tomorrow night after the games he missed with his ankle injury and then the birth of his son. Fans in Toronto really appreciate what he brings to the team. He is very happy there and loves it. He'll be flattered you asked.
Last edited by ploto; 11-27-2007 at 09:25 PM.
Take a deep breath...you're sounding a little defensive in your reply.
You really don't want to go there.
All these points are right on the money. The San Antonio SPURS is a TEAM, there are no individualities: Pop rants in the same way to Beno, Tony, Tim, Bonner, Bones or whomever he needs to scalp alive to get a point across for the good of the team.
It is the process that occurs on the head of the one criticised what separates team players from Kobe-kind of players. Having the maturity to accept a constructive criticism and using it to improve your game/life is what differentiates grown-ups from whinners, winners from loosers
Hard work and commitment to the team's ultimate and shared goal is what makes the SPURS such an amazing ins ution.
im shocked, that anyone, can defend Beno.
That being said.
hes gone, im over it, I hope he finds his way and is successfull, he was good people and a good guy.
Good luck.
The way I saw it, Beno was afflicted by two very common sports diseases. The first and biggest cause to why he failed as a Spur was that he did not fit our system and really never showed a desire to learn it and attempt to fit in. Beno had a few bright spots in his career as a Spur, but was never consistent with them. He was consistent, however, with what was bad about his game.
The second is that he was the backup for a superstar-caliber player. I realize Tony Parker isn't considered to be in the same class as Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, and so forth, but there is no denying that Tony is one of the best at his position. When you have such a stark contrast in star power between the starter and the backup, the backup's flaws are going to take the spotlight, especially if the team loses. The Spurs lack of a decent backup PG was apparent in the playoffs, especially in '06 when Tony played an entire series on two bruised knees.
But he never fit into our system, and that's why he failed. Now that he is in Sacramento playing for a team that has a bigger role for him, he's playing better games. Beno is not an all star player, and I doubt he will sustain this play on a consistent basis, but if he does then good for him.
In French that means Beno is a vagina."I always thought that Beno was very talented, but he was in a hard situation," Parker said. "We were trying to win championships, and there was a lot of pressure on our team.
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