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Good answers by Parker. Same thoughts as a lot of people in here.
Must be that SpursTalk mob mentality
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/522975.html
Udrih, Parker are friends who learned under 'Pop'
By Sam Amick - [email protected]
Last Updated 10:24 am PST Tuesday, November 27, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C5
They were alike in every way but the one that mattered most.
Tony Parker and Beno Udrih were both point guards, both bringing plenty of international flair and a heady understanding of the game since the time they faced off as pre-teens. But while Parker became one of the key pieces to San Antonio's three les in the last five seasons, Udrih - who faced his old team for the first time Monday night at Arco Arena - was in his shadow for the last three.
"I always thought that Beno was very talented, but he was in a hard situation," Parker said. "We were trying to win championships, and there was a lot of pressure on our team.
"Now he's coming to a situation where they just want him to play and play free, because they have no point guard, so it's very different."
Their similarities went beyond the game and all the way to the bench, where both Parker and Udrih knew better than anyone what it meant to endure the infamous wrath of Spurs coach Gregg Popovich through the years.
"What he went through, I went through, too," Parker said. "I guess I was lucky because I was playing more minutes. But you know, you have to be tough to play for 'Pop,' too."
The question of toughness has followed Udrih from San Antonio to Sacramento.
"That's the question," Parker said, "and we'll see with time."
Good answers by Parker. Same thoughts as a lot of people in here.
Must be that SpursTalk mob mentality
Kudos to Beno for has game last night. I honestly hope he does well in Sacramento.
And people thought what Beno could do best was an average NBA back-up.
I think this kid has it inside him, he has the Spurs spirit but it hasn't gone to full effect. Much like Jax.
I think a lot of people on this site do wish the best for Beno.
He's talented, but he just didn't work in THIS system...it's not for everyone.
But there was another article on this site where Pop apologized for not doing more to help him. I don't think that was necessary. He's a fair coach and treats his players the same, regardless of their status. Either you thrive in this environment, or you don't. If Beno couldn't accept that, then it's best he left.
As I said before in another thread, some guys can take tough coaching, some guys cannot. Beno is a talented player, but somewhat of a mental midget.
"You have to be tough to play for Pop." That says it all. I take it as Tony saying, "Beno isn't tough enough to play for Pop."
I was talking to someone about Beno this morning. Along with a lot of the things that have previously been said about him, I think he's someone that needs to be the center of attention. Right now, as the starting PG, he is. But, what happens when Bibby comes back and is ready to go?
Don't get me wrong, I wish him the best, I'm just hoping he doesn't crash and burn.
Yes but he say's two things:
"What he went through, I went through, too," Parker said. "I guess I was lucky because I was playing more minutes. But you know, you have to be tough to play for 'Pop,' too."
And one about minutes of play is fact. The other is just bitterness.
Well said Tony.
One more difference: Parker can do interviews without making a complete and total ass of himself.
Tony got to play regardless and to learn from and through his mistakes.
How many times have you watched a game and thought-- why is Finley still in there? But he was always given the chance to play- unlike Barry. People know I am no Nazr backer, but why did Nazr get pulled every time he made one mistake? I do not recall that happening to Oberto last year. Some players Pop lets play through their growing pains and others he pulls, and it is hard to figure out why.
Not the full truth.
I like to stuff myself on breakfast tacos, and can't bring the ball up against full-court pressure.
Watch out then, Pop might sign your fat ass.
Bitterness? What does Tony Parker have to be bitter about? It's certainly not as if Beno is the first guy to be sent away from San Antonio (or to lose minutes while in San Antonio) for being noticably soft.
I'd say that the statement "you have to be tough to play for 'Pop,' too" is absolute fact.
I think alot of it has to do with who the player is from a talent standpoint -- more talented players will get more rope; Tony Parker got all kinds of chances to play through mistakes because it was evident that, at 19, 20, and 21, he was an immensely talented player; substantially more talented than anyone who Pop could call upon as a replacement. Other guys don't get the same break because the disparity between them and a backup isn't very significant.
I think the other factor that gets discounted in the headscratching about Pop's dealings with players is the nature of the mistake. I had a coach once tell a team that he could live with mistakes as long as the mistakes were made at full-speed. If you play hard and make a mistake, it's understandable. If you don't play hard because you're afraid to make a mistake and then make a mistake anyway, it's unacceptable. In Pop's system, as long as you play hard (Parker, Ginobili, Oberto, pre-2005 Malik Rose, Rasho (at times) and others) you get chances to live through your mistakes and keep playing. If your mistakes make you a soft (or softer) player, you don't get those chances. I suspect that's a common thread in player management in all professional sports.
Bibby will get traded to the Cavs for Anderson Varajao, Eric Snow, and 2008 1st rd pick.
Tony Parker doesn't even realize his own toughness...Parker saying he and Beno both faced the wrath of Pop is like saying a guy who got hit by a semi and a guy who got hit by a 10 speed bicycle, both faced the wrath of a moving vehicle...
Parker got it 10 times worse than Beno......which is why he now gets 10 times more respect from Pop than Beno. And the reward is those rings on his fingers...and all the championships we Spurs fans have gotten a chance to enjoy.
Thank you Tony Parker...for being a man
That's absolutely true.Tony Parker doesn't even realize his own toughness...Parker saying he and Beno both faced the wrath of Pop is like saying a guy who got hit by a semi and a guy who got hit by a 10 speed, both faced the wratch of a moving vehicle...
Parker got it 10 times worse than Beno......which is why he now gets 10 times more respect from Pop than Beno. And the reward is those rings on his fingers...and all the championships we Spurs fans have gotten a chance to enjoy.
Thank you Tony Parker...for being a man
Sometimes people just can't hundle too much presure.
Playing for the spurs there's planty of it.
It comes from the coaching stuff and fans.
I guess Beno was too young to deal with that kind of presure,and going to the Kings will help him out as far as developing his game without such a presure.
After all,It can't get no worst tham the Kings this year,so He's got nothing to lose and alot to gain.
I wish him the best.
well said...and i totally agree!!!Tony Parker doesn't even realize his own toughness...Parker saying he and Beno both faced the wrath of Pop is like saying a guy who got hit by a semi and a guy who got hit by a 10 speed bicycle, both faced the wrath of a moving vehicle...
Parker got it 10 times worse than Beno......which is why he now gets 10 times more respect from Pop than Beno. And the reward is those rings on his fingers...and all the championships we Spurs fans have gotten a chance to enjoy.
Thank you Tony Parker...for being a man
I hate to tell all you Beno fans this as well...but Theus is probably going to turn out to be more of a hardass than Pop...he might look like a pretty boy, but he was a tough hardnosed player...who hardly ever missed a game due to injury till he was legitimately too broken down to play...and then he tried to play for a few more years after that. Wait till the honymoon is over before you pronounce it happily ever after.
Theus was a point guard, too. That could turn out to be very beneficial for Beno . . . or very bad.
The ultimate bail-out for this kid, but I don't buy it.
Tony was younger when he came into the league, he dealt with the pressure, and came through it an all-star.
There are plenty of examples of young stars dealing with pressure-filled situations that rise to the challenges they face.
Bottom Line: Age has nothing to do with it. There are the "haves" and the "have nots". Beno is a "have not" until he proves otherwise.
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