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  1. #26
    Veteran degenerate_gambler's Avatar
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    It's not fluff if you're a true college football fan instead of a UT homer.

    even the biggest UT homer better hope Rudy Carpenter doesn't have his A-game, what with the Horn defense's uncanny knack of missing tackles and blown coverages.

  2. #27
    It's not fluff if you're a true college football fan instead of a UT homer.
    if by true college football fan you mean hopeless loser who cares about meaningless games then count yourself a "true" fan and count me out.

  3. #28
    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    if by true college football fan you mean hopeless loser who cares about meaningless games then count yourself a "true" fan and count me out.
    The 'Horn fans are still smarting after the loss at Kyle Field.

  4. #29
    The 'Horn fans are still smarting after the loss at Kyle Field.
    I've said since week 3 that we suck this year and it's our worst team in years. I never expected them to win as many as they did. If you had paid attention you'd know better.

    Still, our worst day is better than aggie's best.




    It's all good. Our basketball team is tearing up people.

  5. #30
    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    I just know that you'd be happier if UT were BCS-bound and be more apt to cheer on other bowls... I'd feel the same way.

  6. #31
    I just know that you'd be happier if UT were BCS-bound and be more apt to cheer on other bowls... I'd feel the same way.
    If they were le game bound. Not BCS. I felt the same way during the Rose Bowl of '04. Well, even when they were in the le game in '05 I didn't pay attention to the other bowls, even BCS bowls. I was just getting more and more jacked up waiting for the le game.

  7. #32
    12/20 Poinsetta Navy vs Utah 8:00 ESPN
    12/21 New Orleans Florida Atlantic vs Memphis 7:00 ESPN2
    12/22 Papajohns.com Cincinnati vs Southern Miss 12:00 ESPN2
    12/22 New Mexico New Mexico vs Nevada 4:30 ESPN
    12/22 Las Vegas UCLA vs Brigham Young 7:00 ESPN
    12/23 Hawaii East Carolina vs Boise St 7:00 ESPN
    12/26 Motor City Central Michigan vs Purdue 6:30 ESPN
    12/27 Holiday Arizona State vs Texas 7:00 ESPN
    12/28 Champs Sports Boston College vs Michigan St 4:00 ESPN
    12/28 Texas Houston vs Texas Christian 7:00 NFL
    12/28 Emerald Maryland vs Oregon State 7:30 ESPN
    12/29 Meineke Connecticut vs Wake Forest 12:00 ESPN
    12/29 Liberty Central Florida vs Miss. St 3:30 ESPN
    12/29 Alamo Penn State vs Texas A&M 7:00 ESPN
    12/30 Independence Colorado vs Alabama 7:00 ESPN
    12/31 Armed Forces Air Force vs California 11:30 ESPN
    12/31 Humanitarian Georgia Tech vs Fresno St 1:00 ESPN2
    12/31 Sun South Florida vs Oregon 1:00 CBS
    12/31 Music City Florida State vs Kentucky 3:00 ESPN
    12/31 Insight Indiana vs Oklahoma State 4:30 NFL
    12/31 Chick-fil-A Clemson vs Auburn 6:30 ESPN
    1/1 Outback Tennessee vs Wisconsin 10:00 ESPN
    1/1 Cotton Arkansas vs Missouri 10:30 FOX
    1/1 Capital One Florida vs Michigan 12:00 ABC
    1/1 Gator Texas Tech vs Virginia 12:00 CBS
    1/1 Rose Southern Cal. vs Illinois 3:30 ABC
    1/1 Sugar Hawaii vs Georgia 7:30 FOX
    1/2 Fiesta Oklahoma vs West Virginia 7:00 FOX
    1/3 Orange Virginia Tech vs Kansas 7:00 FOX
    1/5 International Ball State vs Rutgers 11:00 ESPN2
    1/6 GMAC Bowling Green vs Tulsa 7:00 ESPN
    1/7 BCS Champ Louisiana St vs Ohio St 7:00 FOX

  8. #33
    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    12/20 Poinsetta Navy vs Utah
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    12/22 Las Vegas UCLA vs Brigham Young
    12/23 Hawaii East Carolina vs Boise St
    12/26 Motor City Central Michigan vs Purdue
    12/27 Holiday Arizona State vs Texas
    12/28 Champs Sports Boston College vs Michigan St
    12/28 Texas Houston vs Texas Christian
    12/28 Emerald Maryland vs Oregon State 7:30
    12/29 Meineke Connecticut vs Wake Forest
    12/29 Liberty Central Florida vs Miss. St
    12/29 Alamo Penn State vs Texas A&M
    12/30 Independence Colorado vs Alabama
    12/31 Armed Forces Air Force vs California
    12/31 Humanitarian Georgia Tech vs Fresno St
    12/31 Sun South Florida vs Oregon
    12/31 Music City Florida State vs Kentucky
    12/31 Insight Indiana vs Oklahoma State
    12/31 Chick-fil-A Clemson vs Auburn
    1/1 Outback Tennessee vs Wisconsin
    1/1 Cotton Arkansas vs Missouri
    1/1 Capital One Florida vs Michigan
    1/1 Gator Texas Tech vs Virginia
    1/1 Rose Southern Cal. vs Illinois
    1/1 Sugar Hawaii vs Georgia
    1/2 Fiesta Oklahoma vs West Virginia
    1/3 Orange Virginia Tech vs Kansas
    1/5 International Ball State vs Rutgers
    1/6 GMAC Bowling Green vs Tulsa
    1/7 BCS Champ Louisiana St vs Ohio St

  9. #34
    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    There is way to many ing bowl games.

  10. #35
    There is way to many ing bowl games.
    It's all about the money.
    I wish there was a playoff system.

  11. #36
    Veteran scott's Avatar
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    what contest did we do last time? ...the one i won, btw. i have to defend my le.
    If it was something you won, I'd guess it was probably a eating contest.

  12. #37
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    There is way to many ing bowl games.

    I agree. What ing purpose does it serve or tradition are we preserving when there are goddamn bowls called the papajohns.com bowl?

  13. #38
    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    CFB is lulz but I got LSU in the BCS Championship since my boy Joseph Addai went there. I may flop to Ohio St if Anthony Gonzalez can not drop or get flagged on a TD pass and win me the fantasy league championship.

  14. #39
    THANK YOU BASED NEAL ClingingMars's Avatar
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    UVA WILL BEAT Texas Tech. Book it.

    -Mars

  15. #40
    Thank God I'm a country boy! djohn14's Avatar
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    So, as a lifetime Arizona State fan and a Texas A&M graduate, this bowl has quite a lot of "meaning" for me. Also, I resent you saying the Pac-10 co-champions "suck worse than you" since Texas lost to OU on a neutral field, K-State at home, and A&M on the road.

    I would agree that at least half (16) of the 32 bowl games are meaningless to non-fans, but this bowl season is chock full of great and interesting bowl matches, including such questions as:

    "Does Arizona State 'suck' like BeerIsGood says they do?"

    "Is the SEC really that great of a conference?"

    "Will OU get busted by a healthy Pat White and will Sooner fans finally STFU with their 'what if' questions?"

    "Will Kansas prove they deserved a BCS shot over Missouri?"

    "Will Mizzou destroy a Nutt-less Arkansas team in the Cotton Bowl to avenge their snubbing?"
    "Will Ohio State fight back for the Big 10 or get blown out again, continuing the conference's slide to 2nd tier in every major sport?"

    "Will anyone care about the Houston Bowl?"

    "How boring will the Illinois-USC game be except for the 'Pete Carroll Face vs. Ron Zook Face' drinking game (i.e. the battle of gray-haired clueless looking buffoons)?"

    "How much does it suck to have to watch Tulsa, Bowling Green, Rutgers, and Ball State play during the 4 days between the Orange Bowl and BCS NC?"

    "Will the Sugar Bowl finally prove that Colt Brennan is just a y, ty system QB?"
    Nutt-less hahahaha...good one...

    Mizzou will beat Arkansas by at least 2 TD's. The only reason it will even be close is because of those 2 great RB's in McFadden and Jones.

  16. #41
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    12/20 Poinsetta Navy vs Utah
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    12/22 Las Vegas UCLA vs Brigham Young
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    12/26 Motor City Central Michigan vs Purdue
    12/27 Holiday Arizona State vs Texas
    12/28 Champs Sports Boston College vs Michigan St
    12/28 Texas Houston vs Texas Christian [B]Wrong[/B12/28 Emerald Maryland vs Oregon State 7:30
    12/29 Meineke Connecticut vs Wake Forest Wrong
    12/29 Liberty Central Florida vs Miss. St
    12/29 Alamo Penn State vs Texas A&M Wrong
    12/30 Independence Colorado vs Alabama
    12/31 Armed Forces Air Force vs California
    12/31 Humanitarian Georgia Tech vs Fresno St
    12/31 Sun South Florida vs Oregon
    12/31 Music City Florida State vs Kentucky
    12/31 Insight Indiana vs Oklahoma State
    12/31 Chick-fil-A Clemson vs Auburn
    1/1 Outback Tennessee vs Wisconsin Wrong
    1/1 Cotton Arkansas vs Missouri
    1/1 Capital One Florida vs Michigan
    1/1 Gator Texas Tech vs Virginia Wrong
    1/1 Rose Southern Cal. vs Illinois
    1/1 Sugar Hawaii vs Georgia Wrong [
    1/2 Fiesta Oklahoma vs West Virginia
    1/3 Orange Virginia Tech vs Kansas
    1/5 International Ball State vs Rutgers
    1/6 GMAC Bowling Green vs Tulsa
    1/7 BCS Champ Louisiana St vs Ohio St Wrong


    Picked some upsets


    I agreed with most but said which ones I disagreed with.

  17. #42
    GTL: Gym, Tan, Laundry Thunder Dan's Avatar
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    I agreed with most but said which ones I disagreed with.
    can't make any money betting chalk for every game. Another thing.. has anyone seen the line for the BCS Championship Game? It opened at 6.5 and has moved anywhere from 2-2.5 points to 4. If you know betting, you know what that means..

  18. #43
    I saw an interesting stat the other day regarding the Championship game: LSU was beaten TWICE while #1 yet is STILL in the championship game. Kind of reflects the whole whacky CFB season. Some other things to note (re: LSU):

    * LSU lost in 3OT to Kentucky while at #1. They dropped just FOUR slots to #5.

    * LSU later lost in 3OT to Arkansas while at #1. Again, they dropped only FOUR slots to #5.

    * Kentucky and Arkansas both ended the season outside of the BCS Top-25.

    Contrast that with some of the other 2-loss teams:

    VTech: Lost to now #2 LSU and #14 BC.
    Mizzou: Lost to now #3 OU twice.
    WVU: Lost to now #21 USF and unranked Pitt.

  19. #44
    GTL: Gym, Tan, Laundry Thunder Dan's Avatar
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    I saw an interesting stat the other day regarding the Championship game: LSU was beaten TWICE while #1 yet is STILL in the championship game. Kind of reflects the whole whacky CFB season. Some other things to note (re: LSU):

    * LSU lost in 3OT to Kentucky while at #1. They dropped just FOUR slots to #5.

    * LSU later lost in 3OT to Arkansas while at #1. Again, they dropped only FOUR slots to #5.

    * Kentucky and Arkansas both ended the season outside of the BCS Top-25.

    Contrast that with some of the other 2-loss teams:

    VTech: Lost to now #2 LSU and #14 BC.
    Mizzou: Lost to now #3 OU twice.
    WVU: Lost to now #21 USF and unranked Pitt.
    LSU was the voters' darling this whole season. They did nothing but under achieve the whole season (with exception to the Va Tech game) and the voters where still sold on what they saw. LSU lost 2 games to teams outside of the top 25, and should have lost to Auburn if not for a last minute play, could have lost to Alabama, and had to use defensive TD's to get by a shaky Tenn. team. I'm not sold on LSU. They might very well be the best team in the country, but I have yet to see it. I've watched every single one of their games with the exception of the Ole Miss game, and I have not seen the team even close to where they were against Viginia Tech.

    Now, here is what I think. I think the voters voted them so close to the top for one reason: money. Outside of a playoff, there is one major change that could happen to better college football- no preseason polls, and no voting untill October. How could it be that nobody at ESPN or in the press would bring this point up? It's because they use these preseason polls to sell magazines and other forms of media. If teams where just teams, people wouldn't care. Look at the top 5 from this year (I might be a little off)
    1. USC
    2. LSU
    3. West Virginia
    4. Texas
    5. Michigan

    During week 8 (I think) they were wrong on every single one of these. Not one preseason top 5 team was in the top 5. What does this do to their credibility?

    Now you might be asking: "Alright so how does voting in October change things?" and the answer is simple. If there is no standard by which teams are judged-by which I mean if there is no blueprint to how teams should be voted, voters can vote for what they really see. The 2004 Auburn team should be the biggest advocates of this. If they were ranked higher at the beginning of the season (before they even played a single down), they would have been BCS Champions. Same goes for LSU, if LSU was preseason #15, and lost the same 2 games they did this year, they wouldn't even sniff the BCS Championship Game. It's all about saving face. Voters will vote along the lines of what they did in August, even when the teams had not even played a single snap. It's just wrong, and this could help college football....but nobody will say anything about it because there is too much money tied into preseason hype.

  20. #45
    LSU was the voters' darling this whole season. They did nothing but under achieve the whole season (with exception to the Va Tech game) and the voters where still sold on what they saw. LSU lost 2 games to teams outside of the top 25, and should have lost to Auburn if not for a last minute play, could have lost to Alabama, and had to use defensive TD's to get by a shaky Tenn. team. I'm not sold on LSU. They might very well be the best team in the country, but I have yet to see it. I've watched every single one of their games with the exception of the Ole Miss game, and I have not seen the team even close to where they were against Viginia Tech.

    Now, here is what I think. I think the voters voted them so close to the top for one reason: money. Outside of a playoff, there is one major change that could happen to better college football- no preseason polls, and no voting untill October. How could it be that nobody at ESPN or in the press would bring this point up? It's because they use these preseason polls to sell magazines and other forms of media. If teams where just teams, people wouldn't care. Look at the top 5 from this year (I might be a little off)
    1. USC
    2. LSU
    3. West Virginia
    4. Texas
    5. Michigan

    During week 8 (I think) they were wrong on every single one of these. Not one preseason top 5 team was in the top 5. What does this do to their credibility?

    Now you might be asking: "Alright so how does voting in October change things?" and the answer is simple. If there is no standard by which teams are judged-by which I mean if there is no blueprint to how teams should be voted, voters can vote for what they really see. The 2004 Auburn team should be the biggest advocates of this. If they were ranked higher at the beginning of the season (before they even played a single down), they would have been BCS Champions. Same goes for LSU, if LSU was preseason #15, and lost the same 2 games they did this year, they wouldn't even sniff the BCS Championship Game. It's all about saving face. Voters will vote along the lines of what they did in August, even when the teams had not even played a single snap. It's just wrong, and this could help college football....but nobody will say anything about it because there is too much money tied into preseason hype.
    i agree with almost all of that, but teams do drop like rocks when they lose...normally. it just depends how they lose. LSU had a bunch of injuries, went through a tough schedule, and only lost in overtime. considering they are a top team, i am not surprised they stayed near the top even with those losses. so, disagree about voters trying to save face, that makes zero sense to me.

    but it is about money, and they probably shouldn't have polls until after the first few games. however, pollsters will have an opinion about who they think the top teams are going into the season anyway, so i wonder if if would make that much of a difference...

  21. #46
    "Lets go Mavs!" Dirk Nowitzki's Avatar
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    i agree with almost all of that, but teams do drop like rocks when they lose...normally. it just depends how they lose. LSU had a bunch of injuries, went through a tough schedule, and only lost in overtime. considering they are a top team, i am not surprised they stayed near the top even with those losses. so, disagree about voters trying to save face, that makes zero sense to me.

    but it is about money, and they probably shouldn't have polls until after the first few games. however, pollsters will have an opinion about who they think the top teams are going into the season anyway, so i wonder if if would make that much of a difference...

    Who is that chick in your avatar???

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    Marissa Miller, Lordess of the Freckles.

  23. #48
    The Wheel Is Turning... shelshor's Avatar
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    12/22 Las Vegas UCLA vs Brigham Young
    12/23 Hawaii East Carolina vs Boise St
    12/26 Motor City Central Michigan vs Purdue
    12/27 Holiday Arizona State vs Texas
    12/28 Champs Sports Boston College vs Michigan St
    12/28 Texas Houston vs Texas Christian
    12/28 Emerald Maryland vs Oregon State 7:30
    12/29 Meineke Connecticut vs Wake Forest
    12/29 Liberty Central Florida vs Miss. St
    12/29 Alamo Penn State vs Texas A&M
    12/30 Independence Colorado vs Alabama
    12/31 Armed Forces Air Force vs California
    12/31 Humanitarian Georgia Tech vs Fresno St
    12/31 Sun South Florida vs Oregon
    12/31 Music City Florida State vs Kentucky
    12/31 Insight Indiana vs Oklahoma State
    12/31 Chick-fil-A Clemson vs Auburn
    1/1 Outback Tennessee vs Wisconsin
    1/1 Cotton Arkansas vs Missouri
    1/1 Capital One Florida vs Michigan
    1/1 Gator Texas Tech vs Virginia
    1/1 Rose Southern Cal. vs Illinois
    1/1 Sugar Hawaii vs Georgia
    1/2 Fiesta Oklahoma vs West Virginia
    1/3 Orange Virginia Tech vs Kansas
    1/5 International Ball State vs Rutgers
    1/6 GMAC Bowling Green vs Tulsa
    1/7 BCS Champ Louisiana St vs Ohio St

  24. #49
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    12/22 Las Vegas UCLA vs Brigham Young
    12/23 Hawaii East Carolina vs Boise St
    12/26 Motor City Central Michigan vs Purdue
    12/27 Holiday Arizona State vs Texas
    12/28 Champs Sports Boston College vs Michigan St
    12/28 Texas Houston vs Texas Christian
    12/28 Emerald Maryland vs Oregon State
    12/29 Meineke Connecticut vs Wake Forest
    12/29 Liberty Central Florida vs Miss. St
    12/29 Alamo Penn State vs Texas A&M
    12/30 Independence Colorado vs Alabama
    12/31 Armed Forces Air Force vs California
    12/31 Humanitarian Georgia Tech vs Fresno St
    12/31 Sun South Florida vs Oregon
    12/31 Music City Florida State vs Kentucky
    12/31 Insight Indiana vs Oklahoma State
    12/31 Chick-fil-A Clemson vs Auburn
    1/1 Outback Tennessee vs Wisconsin
    1/1 Cotton Arkansas vs Missouri
    1/1 Capital One Florida vs Michigan
    1/1 Gator Texas Tech vs Virginia
    1/1 Rose Southern Cal. vs Illinois
    1/1 Sugar Hawaii vs Georgia
    1/2 Fiesta Oklahoma vs West Virginia
    1/3 Orange Virginia Tech vs Kansas
    1/5 International Ball State vs Rutgers
    1/6 GMAC Bowling Green vs Tulsa
    1/7 BCS Champ Louisiana St vs Ohio St

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    Congrats to all you fools for picking Navy...

    Guess what school has the longest bowl game winning streak?

    Hint: it's not Navy!

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