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When I saw it live, I thought "you can't do that!", but I wasn't sure. and after only one replay some of my details may be wrong. If anyone has a way to mount a youtube, I'd be most grateful.
Very Very sad that Elson is this stupid when it comes to his job, his profession, his livelihood. Very sad. But shoog, you bring up a very important subject.
So what you are saying is that Dirk had no right to cut in between Ginobili and Howard after he went out of bounds, correct?
When I saw it live, I thought "you can't do that!", but I wasn't sure. and after only one replay some of my details may be wrong. If anyone has a way to mount a youtube, I'd be most grateful.
Elson was having alot of things "explained" to him tonight.
er is dumber than snot.
Elson may have missed some assignments tonight...but his block on Terry with 3.5 seconds left was HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
I already said he was suppossed to switch, so he screwed up there. However, the play took long enough to develop where he still could have run out there to contest the shot. He didn't, because IMO Finley was giving up an easy two. Bowen and Duncan knew what Cisco was suppossed to do too, but I wonder if they saw Fin giving up the basket.He didn't really guard the rim thoughHe just stood in no man's land. There was a pick - he was supposed to switch. That's part of Spurs basics and something that he messes up a lot. Bowen and Duncan both talked to him about it as the game ended.
My point is Fin was brutal that last play.
It was gigantic. And I'm not going to give Elson crap for the last play because even David freaking Robinson might have gone, "what the ?"
Off topic almost but ... this is a game that I wouldn't mind the Spurs showing the league in regards to the elbows being thrown. What was with the Mavs? Whether they were up or down, they were throwing 'bows.
they have no class. the karate chop by diop on Manu is deserving of a two game w/o pay.
The Mavs were pissed off for some reason tonight.
Terry was throwing elbows and on one drive about kicked Elson's nuts into the baseline Bums.
Elson in came through tonight. The Spurs won, , I didn't see anything wrong.
Dirk even threw an elbow
Nice that you were able to see anything, period.
I did...
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And I don't know why you guys are surprised about Elson...Pop doesn't play him in these situations usually..
Stop drinking timvp's coolaid.
That is what I am saying!! They were being slightly dirty-esque physical style from the start, which is why Bowen got pissed very early in the game. If you read his facial and body language, he got UBER pissed very early by the they called on us compared to all the elbows and uncalled by the Mavs.
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Maybe they expected it to be easier? They didn't play particularly well in the first half (or the second, come to think of it). With the poor shooting and stupid turnovers, they should have had a double digit lead at the half. Frustration that the Spurs were playing them hard? Knowing that if they lost it would consistently repeated throughout the season that they lost to a Duncan-less Spurs team, and that would shake their overly inflated confidence about their awesome ability to obliterate the Spurs?Dirk even threw an elbow
Re: the elbows.
What do you expect? The Mavwrecks were expecting to waltz into SA and whip the Spurs without TD playing, and then Manu and Parker slapped their sorry asses back to Highland Park.
Think back to Miami owning them in the Finals or GS last year, and they became a bunch of en led punk ass es. They are the embodiment of their elitist, en lement prick ass city.
Fun to watch the meltdown
somebody do a video montage of all the cheap shots those guys threw during the game.
Yeah...i thought the play was very weird.
About that...I always thought it was like football (american football). If you go out of bounds, you're out of the play. And I thought in basketball, that someone else had to touch the ball (probably have to do more...like "establish possession") before you got it back -- if you go out of bounds, you can't be the first person to touch the ball. I think that's sort of how it works in football.
I don't know how or why I applied the same logic to basketball but I did, and I've always thought that. But I think it's right.
Which makes the mavs play ILLEGAL! Avery...should've stayed an assistant coach -- with the Spurs
I just watched the last play a few times. Bruce got called on the screen, Elson gave Dirk a little push out of bounds but never switched onto him. Dirk practically ran all the way out to the first row of chairs before cutting back to the corner. I'm not positive if it's illegal but I've never seen anyone do that. Elson ed up for sure, but thank God he didn't make that 3.
I believe, in the NFL at least, that you can go out of bounds on the sideline without the ball and come back in to the play as long as you establish yourself in the field of play first.
look at the elbow of stack
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HZZdYs1c4
Uh, Elson, other than that block, was absolutely HORRID.And I don't know why you guys are surprised about Elson
I like Elson, but tonight, he was god awful.
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