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    It could be ruined by the Colts picking off Brady four times as they did the last time they played there.
    maybe so, but i don't fear the Colts defense one bit. Without Freeney, Brady is going to have all day.

    a fully healthy Colts offense is definitely something to fear tho, and it may be too much for the Pats to handle, i'll admit that much.

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    I have to agree. This year, Brady has really acted like a total arrogant bag. Mono will probably say "he has 3 rings, so he can act however he wants." But just because you can, doesn't mean you have to. There are plenty of great players that didn't act like total whiny s just because they had accomplished careers.
    or maybe they did, but they didn't have ESPN watching their every move.

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    Up for debate: Does Peyton try to re-break the TD record next year? If Dungy retires and they get a coach with some balls... it could happen.

    Sucks though that Peyton really deserved it and he has to give it up three years later to a like Brady.

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    why does anybody care if the Patriots lose a game? isn't it to be expected?

    all i hear on these boards is how overrated the Pats are, how Brady isn't that good, how Moss is a pussy, how Welker is a fluke, how the defense is overrated and sucks. Since they suck so bad, everyone should fully expect them to lose, right?

    so what's the big deal?
    Must be nice to be a Pats fan

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    or maybe they did, but they didn't have ESPN watching their every move.
    Perhaps. Perhaps not. But what we do know for sure, is that Brady has clearly shown lately that he is not a standard for class by any means, whether in the media, in the game, or behind the scenes.

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    Perhaps. Perhaps not. But what we do know for sure, is that Brady has clearly shown lately that he is not a standard for class by any means, whether in the media, in the game, or behind the scenes.
    so what's the standard for class? "we had some protection problems" or "i don't like you philip rivers so i'm not going to sit next to you"? either of those?

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    Must be nice to be a Pats fan
    i'm just a bandwagoner

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    I hope Brady pulls a Dirk in the playoffs and they get beat in the first round of the playoffs.

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    so what's the standard for class? "we had some protection problems" or "i don't like you philip rivers so i'm not going to sit next to you"? either of those?
    Obviously not screaming at the refs over every single play, having an arrogant douchiness in his interviews, and leaving women he impregnated to avoid responsibility.

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    I hope Brady pulls a Dirk in the playoffs and they get beat in the first round of the playoffs.
    I don't. I want to see the best possible compe ion, and I want to see the best team win. I want to see them play the Colts. If they beat the Colts, I want to see them play the Cowboys. I would LOVE to see a Cowboys/Patriots SB. I don't think there could be a better SB matchup this year, and will probably be the best matchup of two teams since the Pats/Eagles SB.

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    and for the record, I feel that the Patriots are a better team than the Colts, but the Colts present matchup problems that I think would get them past the Patriots, but now that they don't have Freeney... its hard to tell. I still think the Colts are capable of winning, but it will be much harder without Freeney. The DL and LB's will have to play an absolutely flawless game to win.

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    I just don't like how Brady is getting all the credit. Sports outlets are touting him as the best ever, playing out of his mind, blah, blah, blah. CLEARLY, Randy Moss is the MVP of that team, AND the league. Brady never sniffed the type of stats he's putting up now without Moss. Dante Cullpepper is/has been horrible since he hasn't played with Moss. That goes to show that if you put a competent QB in front of a great line with Moss going deep, getting double and triple coverage, opening everything up underneath for guys Welker, Watson and Stallworth, and yeah, a QB is going to put up some stats. Look what the Cullpepper, and Cunningham put up when they had Moss? Thats why I hate Brady

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    I don't. I want to see the best possible compe ion, and I want to see the best team win. I want to see them play the Colts. If they beat the Colts, I want to see them play the Cowboys. I would LOVE to see a Cowboys/Patriots SB. I don't think there could be a better SB matchup this year, and will probably be the best matchup of two teams since the Pats/Eagles SB.
    That way we can see the same AFC Championship game for the what 4th time? talk about fun. Atleast this year it won't be played in a dome in front of a bunch of pussies that are too scared to play in the elements

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    That way we can see the same AFC Championship game for the what 4th time? talk about fun. Atleast this year it won't be played in a dome in front of a bunch of pussies that are too scared to play in the elements
    not to mention fake crowd noise.

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    God I hate football in a dome......it makes me feel angry

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    football on field turf makes me feel the same way.

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    I just don't like how Brady is getting all the credit. Sports outlets are touting him as the best ever, playing out of his mind, blah, blah, blah. CLEARLY, Randy Moss is the MVP of that team, AND the league. Brady never sniffed the type of stats he's putting up now without Moss. Dante Cullpepper is/has been horrible since he hasn't played with Moss. That goes to show that if you put a competent QB in front of a great line with Moss going deep, getting double and triple coverage, opening everything up underneath for guys Welker, Watson and Stallworth, and yeah, a QB is going to put up some stats. Look what the Cullpepper, and Cunningham put up when they had Moss? Thats why I hate Brady
    So you hate a quarterback for getting all the credit, the exact same way every other quarterback gets all the credit when a team is winning?

    You could say the exact same thing about Tony Romo. Just use your exact post, replace Brady with Romo, Moss with Owens, Welker/Watson/Stallworth with Witten/Crayton/Barber, Culpepper with McNabb, Cunningham with Garcia. EVERY quarterback on a winning team gets too much credit.

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    So you hate a quarterback for getting all the credit, the exact same way every other quarterback gets all the credit when a team is winning?

    You could say the exact same thing about Tony Romo. Just use your exact post, replace Brady with Romo, Moss with Owens, Welker/Watson/Stallworth with Witten/Crayton/Barber, Culpepper with McNabb, Cunningham with Garcia. EVERY quarterback on a winning team gets too much credit.
    I spy some smack that won't work when applied to the Colts since Manning's having a 30TD season with injuries to the whole damn team at some point or other.

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    I spy some smack that won't work when applied to the Colts since Manning's having a 30TD season with injuries to the whole damn team at some point or other.
    Manning's always been more talented than Brady. He's just a choker. Or at least he used to be.

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    Well at least Manning got himself to his first Super Bowl and didn't need Drew Bledsoe to do it for him.

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    I just don't like how Brady is getting all the credit. Sports outlets are touting him as the best ever, playing out of his mind, blah, blah, blah. CLEARLY, Randy Moss is the MVP of that team, AND the league. Brady never sniffed the type of stats he's putting up now without Moss. Dante Cullpepper is/has been horrible since he hasn't played with Moss. That goes to show that if you put a competent QB in front of a great line with Moss going deep, getting double and triple coverage, opening everything up underneath for guys Welker, Watson and Stallworth, and yeah, a QB is going to put up some stats. Look what the Cullpepper, and Cunningham put up when they had Moss? Thats why I hate Brady
    I don't think its fair to hate him for that. i just hate the way people sniff his jock over that. Manning could toss up 60 or 70 TDs easily with the team they have and the playcalling that they are using. Another thing people don't realize is that playcalling had a LOT to do with the record that Manning set, and the subperb season Brady is having. IMO, as great as Manning was, I thought that there were more deserving players for MVP that season, such as T.O. I think his effect on the Eagles was incredibly valuable. They turned into a good, consistent 11-12 win team, into a dominant force in the league, consistently beating the out of oppenents (they easily could have went 15-1, but they pulled their starters in the last two games). And a healthy T.O. could have been the difference between winning and losing a 3 point SB, as there were a few instances where it was very obvious he didn't have the explosiveness to pull away from his defenders. I know at least once, he had a lane that if he was at 100%, he would have taken it to the house, easily, but his cut came a little too slowly and he wasn't able to pull away like he could have.

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    Manning's always been more talented than Brady. He's just a choker. Or at least he used to be.
    I still can't say he shed the choker label just yet. These playoffs will really show a lot about his ability to perform under true playoff pressure (not talking about playing games against crappy Denver and KC teams that don't know what the they are doing).

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    Well at least Manning got himself to his first Super Bowl and didn't need Drew Bledsoe to do it for him.
    And Brady didn't have the luxury of going against Rex Grossman to win any of his three.

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    And Brady didn't have the luxury of going against Rex Grossman to win any of his three.
    You're right, but he needed the right foot of Adam Vinatieri to win two of em though.

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    You're right, but he needed the right foot of Adam Vinatieri to win two of em though.
    Brady put Vinatieri in position to be the most overrated kicker in NFL history. He made one lucky ass kick in the snow and then made some chip shots in the Super Bowls that any decent kicker would have made. Vinatieri should be thanking Brady for giving him a career, and instead that rat traitor jumps ship.

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    Brady put Vinatieri in position to be the most overrated kicker in NFL history. He made one lucky ass kick in the snow and then made some chip shots in the Super Bowls that any decent kicker would have made. Vinatieri should be thanking Brady for giving him a career, and instead that rat traitor jumps ship.
    You're full of . You only say that because he left and went to the Colts. Before he went to the Colts, you were always raving about him being the greatest and most clutch kicker ever, then the day he went to the colts, you started whining like a about him being overrated, a traitor, etc...

    Scott Norwood was in great position to win a SuperBowl with a kick, and choked it away. John Kasay simply had to keep his kick inbounds to give his team a chance to keep the game alive and play in OT and screwed that up. Position obviously means nothing. Execution is everything. Adam Vinateri executes when he is needed to.

    In fact, when people were complaining about how Kasay screwed that whole SB up by kicking it out of bounds, despite being a VERY good kicker, you were the one saying "thats what distinguishes good kickers from the best ever... Vinateri hits the most important ones no matter what, and thats why hes the greatest kicker ever, etc..."
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