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As long as we call each other names... NO T Porkchop! Nobody was comparing Parker and Udrih. If your lazy ass would read the whole thread you would know that. Or maybe not.
Is this clown seriously, and I mean, SERIOUSLY, comparing Beno Udrih to Tony Parker?
Is this the same Beno Udrih who couldn't bring the ball past half court against the stoic likes of Chuck Hayes, Lindsey Hunter, and Antonio McDeyss?!?!?!
Un ing real.
As long as we call each other names... NO T Porkchop! Nobody was comparing Parker and Udrih. If your lazy ass would read the whole thread you would know that. Or maybe not.
I am not surprised Udrih is doing well.
He's always been a decent player.
He just can't handle the pressure of winning night in and night out.
No expectations from him. No pressure in Sacramento.
But if they make the playoffs, expect him to fail.
As ever.
Hey sendman, when the was Sacramento a championship contender? Beno is playing well on a team with very little expectations. Do you honestly think the kid who couldn't get past a half court trap set by Lindsay Hunter is going to excel under pressure?
How old are you sweet chicks?
Nobody was wrong about Beno,nor Pop or the Fans.
Fact is that the Spurs are a Championship caliber team,which means PLAY UNDER ALOT OF PRESSION EVERY SINGLE GAME.
Some people can handle it some people just can't handle alot of pression.
Everyone in San Antonio and Most of SA fans around the world knew that Beno can play Ball,no doubt. But what itīs being dabating al this time until He got traded was: That if Beno was gonna be able to overcome the issue of playing under pression for a championship caliber team or not,and He failed.
Now that He plays for a team that has NOTHING TO LOOSE,and whatever record they get in the regular season is gonna be ok He seems to feel more confortable.
Itīs just a matter of strong mentallity and positive ac ude,and thatīs the diference between good players and champions.
Hopefuly with time Beno will achive that,but right now he is not mentally ready to play for a team like the Spurs.
Last edited by ArgSpursFan.; 12-18-2007 at 07:17 PM.
Spurs with Tony: 17-4
Kings with Beno: 8-9
Why don't you start a poll to see which player posters would rather have on their team, year 3 Tony or year 4 Beno.
Be a man.
I think Beno just needs ample playing time to succeed. He's not a "come of the bench for 10 mins. a game and make an impact" kind of guy. It take time for him to get inot his rythm. I always kind of liked him in SA but I'm glad that he's somewhere where he can suceed and get playing time. (and I sure as hope that he gets plenty of it after Bibby comes bake because I've got Beno on both of my fantasy teams right now).
Sweet chicks?
How is that? I'm sure most folks will agree that there are few on this board who have spent more time criticizing Pop for his handling of Beno or taken on those who suggested that he wasn't a good basketball player. I even compared him to Parker at one time, but that ship has long sailed. Parker has left him in the ing dust because of at ude, effort, and will to improve. Whatever quality Pop requires in order for someone to be a Spur, Beno doesn't have it.
Beno is doing fairly well now. Good for him. Let's try to remember that he's doing well in a system where wins are valued just above defense and he doesn't have to give any effort in practice in order to get PT because the team was so decimated by injuries at his position that they were willing to sign him in the first place.
Beno has talent that can take him as far as his work ethic will allow, but since I'm a Spurs fan first, I'm ing glad that the drama that accompanies it is gone.
On
the
money.
I agree with you word for word except for this last sentence of yours. There was no drama on the Spurs. As I said before I never heard any complain about him made by the Spurs.
It looks like T Park and company that started this negative campaign against Udrih were loud enough. All the drama is on them.
P.S. And on top of that Udrih plays a ty game.
Benooo! I'm bleeding here!
If Beno's last few interviews, beginning before he was traded, weren't enough to convince you that the relationship was poisoned, and that it was time for him to go, then I don't know how to help you other than to suggest that it's a good thing you aren't the one making the decisions for the Spurs. I'm not the least bit surprised that he's putting up numbers, since he didn't have to beat out anyone ambulatory for his job. I'm glad he's doing it for someone else. Since the Spurs have team guys to back up Parker, and they are able to contribute to wins and work to improve, I'll accept the drop-off in talent.
Let me ask you this. What would you do in his shoes? Honestlly! He felt that he has the talent to play or even start on some NBA team. He is a professional basketball player. He came to USA to make money. Sitting on the bench doesn't help the number written on his paychecks in the future. And I will quote Theus on Pop once again just for the of it:"Popovich told me he really kept him under his thumb," Theus said of Udrih. "He didn't allow him to get up and really do anything for him. That was a compliment. In other words, he was saying, 'He can play. I didn't give him a chance.' "
It's hard to show anything if you don't get a chance.
I believe that Pop and Beno know much better what they are talking about than any of you "experts".
If there was a personal problem between Beno and Pop as you pretend to say,you're wrong,coze if that was the case He would've been traded for a second round pick or a scrub about two years ago.
Pop just got tired of waiting for Beno to grow up and get ready to handle pressure,that's all.
Work harder than everybody else. At least worked harder than Jacque Vaughn.
Too bad your talent level doesn't get you playing time on the Spurs. Spoiled babies with talent don't contribute to wins. Ask the Washington Wizards.
And that professionalism shined through when he didn't show up for camp or went crying to the media for playing time.
Obviously. He certainly didn't to become a great player. Nobody with any sense of perspective tries to make a financial argument. I'd have been happy to sit on the Spurs bench and watch every game for a fraction of Beno's salary.
I'm not here to give a about a millionaire's financial situation. Too bad for Beno that he couldn't be bothered to stay in shape, show up for a single training camp, fight through aches and pains, or develop as a player.
And again I say, good ing riddance. If Pop wasn't going to let him play, and we all know that Pop wasn't going to give him a chance, then why the waste a roster spot on him? Are you a Spurs fan or are you a bitter Slovenian homer?
And you know that he didn't work hard how? T Park told you?Work harder than everybody else. At least worked harder than Jacque Vaughn.
I guess that this spoiled part again came to you by reliable T Park and his gangbangers source. If not, present some facts.Too bad your talent level doesn't get you playing time on the Spurs. Spoiled babies with talent don't contribute to wins. Ask the Washington Wizards.
He showed up for every single training camp. He even didn't play for our national team to be ready for Spurs.And that professionalism shined through when he didn't show up for camp or went crying to the media for playing time.
Oh I know, ....but...but he broke his finger during practice. Or somebody has hit him with his knee into his tie. He is injury prone. He injured himself on purpose.
You obviously just refuse to understand this sentence:"He can play. I didn't give him a chance." How can he become a great player?Obviously. He certainly didn't to become a great player. Nobody with any sense of perspective tries to make a financial argument. I'd have been happy to sit on the Spurs bench and watch every game for a fraction of Beno's salary.
And a newsflash for you. If some player is greedy and wants more money (finantial argument from the right perspective for you), that usually means that he is ambitious. Or maybe you think that NBA owners are paying players based on the size of their man purses? I know you will pull that delusional explenation again.
If I would be a bitter Slovenian homer I would have followed Udrih on some Sacto board and than came back here to troll and talk trash every time when he would have a good game, everytime when Tony or Jacque would have a bad game and like that. And I wouldn't have a reason to be bitter, because he is doing fairly good over there.And again I say, good ing riddance. If Pop wasn't going to let him play, and we all know that Pop wasn't going to give him a chance, then why the waste a roster spot on him? Are you a Spurs fan or are you a bitter Slovenian homer?
Also when Rasho got traded you didn't see me crying all over this board.
All this futile correspondence is more about that mob behavior that I noticed on this forum. And yes it bugs me more because he is my countryman, but I'll get into anybody's grill for every other Spurs player just as hard.
Last edited by sendman; 12-19-2007 at 09:36 AM.
all you clowns who are callin out beno cause he couldnt bring the ball up the court against the pistons....
Tp was the reason why we didnt get pass the lakers during there 3peat, yeh thats right the dude who dissappear late in the series
Yeah, it figures. Why don't you just call Kori a bad name and become a Kings fan? If you think Beno was ever going to get a fair shake here then there's just no helping you. The Spurs were stupid to pick up his option, because he was never going to be a player here for Pop, particularly when he couldn't play through pain, play defense or be in shape. When he started whining to the media it was, as SAS says, ovah. I like the guy and I'm glad to see him doing well (as I predicted he would), but I'm just as glad that he's not on the Spurs.
You read only every fifth sentence that i wrote. And only those that are serving your purpose.
We have a saying: "because of a tree, you can't see the forest. Is that because your view is obstructed?
beno can play when it's december and the pressure's off.
antoine carr once averaged 20 a night for the kings.
When Beno was drafted we did not know for sure if Tony Parker was going to be in SA long term. He signed his long term extention just before the '04 season started in October (at the very last minute). Beno was drafted in June of 04 and was a contingency plan if Tony did not stay in SA.
Obviously, Tony stayed and has blossomed here. Beno was a good player his rookie year. The injuries and inconsistent play in his second and third years reduced his playing time and Spurs management went another direction at the back up for Parker.
The Spurs would have lost Beno anyway for nothing this coming summer as he would have been an unrestricted free agent. There is no way in the world BU would have stayed here as TP's backup. They are the same age.
SAS drafted a talented player who in the end did not fit in. If Tony Parker had left SA a couple of years ago, we could be talking about a completely different situation (Beno as a starter getting plenty of playing time as well as one fewer NBA championship trophy in the AT&T Center).
There's nothing wrong with my nose, since I sniffed you out as Slovenian. If you couldn't see that Beno was NEVER going to be useful in San Antonio, then you're the one whose got problems with his vision.
During their threepeat, Tony only faced them once, as a 20-year old rookie.
Like I was hiding that I'm Slovenian. I made that statment loud and clear at least 10 times in my previous posts. So you are not exactly Monk to figure that one out. And me being a Slovenian has nothing to do with the essence of my posts. I know that my English must be funny to you some times, but you just don't get it and frankly I'm a little tired of explaining it to you. So I suggest that you live with your belives and I'll try to live with mine.
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